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Let's discuss the Holy Land. Where Jesus walked. Where the Apostles walked. The history, the geography, the spirituality.



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  1. chewchoo
    Jun 24, '09 6:18 am
    chewchoo
    Dead Sea peril: sinkholes swallow up the unwary
    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap_travel/20..._sea_sinkholes

    Quote:
    EIN GEDI, Israel – Eli Raz was peering into a narrow hole in the Dead Sea shore when the earth opened up and swallowed him. Fearing he would never be found alive in the 30-foot- deep pit, he scribbled his will on an old postcard.
    After 14 hours a search party pulled him from the hole unhurt, and five years later the 69-year-old geologist is working to save others from a similar fate, leading an effort to map the sinkholes that are spreading on the banks of the fabled saltwater lake.
    These underground craters can open up in an instant, sucking in whatever lies above and leaving the surrounding area looking like an earthquake zone.
    The phenomenon, Raz said, stems from a dire water shortage, compounded in recent years by tourism and chemical industries as well as a growing population. "This is the most remarkable evidence of the brutal interference of humans in the Dead Sea," he said.
    interesting... i have some pictures of these sinkholes, i'll try to post some later.
    Thread: The Dead Sea
  2. chewchoo
    May 10, '09 2:28 pm
    chewchoo
    the pope visits the jordan river location where Jesus was baptized.
    http://cnsblog.wordpress.com/2009/05...-jordan-river/
  3. chewchoo
    Apr 30, '09 6:44 pm
    chewchoo
    By Elizabeth Lev

    ROME, APRIL 30, 2009 (Zenit.org).- Rome may have celebrated its 2,782 year anniversary on April 21, but another important birthday is in the offing. On May 13, the Pantheon will celebrate its 1,400th year as a Christian church.

    The jewel of Rome's historical center, the Pantheon was the most ambitious building project undertaken in Roman history. The giant hemispherical dome resting on the cylindrical drum drew on every lesson the Romans had learned in 800 years of conquest and construction.

    The engineering mastery displayed in the Pantheon surpassed any country in the Empire. The concrete dome spanned 143 feet in diameter, twice as large as the next runner up -- a bath complex in Baiae. The sophisticated employment of pozzolana cement, instead of lime mortar, the structural arches countering the lateral stress, and the gradation of the density of the cement from foundation to dome testified to a people who had outstripped even the Egyptians and their pyramids.

    This monument to man's ingenuity was intended to symbolize the Roman fixation with deification. The first temple on the site, built in 25 B.C. by Agrippa, son-in-law of Augustus, featured Mars and Venus, the divine ancestors of Julius Caesar and by extension, Augustus himself. The new building constructed by Hadrian in 125 at the zenith of the Roman empire went even further.

    see link for remainder

    and * *

    Building a state

    It's funny to think that an institution as old as the papacy resides in a state that is only 80 years old. The 500-year-old basilica, and the tomb of St. Peter, now advancing towards its 2,000th anniversary, indicate a long history, but Vatican City State, the proper name of the sovereign state of the Holy Father, celebrated its 80th anniversary last Feb. 11.

    An interesting exhibit on the Charlemagne wing of St. Peter’s square sheds light on the circumstances and events surrounding the birth of this new nation.

    The five-part show brings together documents, photographs, maps, models and medals to illustrate the salient moments of the unification of Italy, the negotiations of the concordat and the resulting entity that we know today.

    http://www.zenit.org/article-25757?l=english

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  1. dcingoranelli
    Mar 12, '13 10:50 am
    dcingoranelli
    We are interested in perhaps making a pilgrimage to the holy land, but neither our diocese nor the two others in the state have any scheduled for this year, so we're wondering if you all had any recommendations for respectable tour operators
  2. chewchoo
    Jun 10, '09 12:03 pm
    chewchoo
    you can find some info on birds of the bible - dove and turtle-dove here: http://leesbird.com/2008/05/16/birds...d-turtle-dove/
  3. unclej
    Jun 9, '09 8:13 pm
    unclej
    Hello, I have a question arising from bible study- does anyone know if the doves in the holy land make the same sound as the doves here in the states do? They make a distinctive loud whirring sound as they fly. We have an instruction to picture yourself in the passage and I am trying to assimilate the sound.
  4. chewchoo
    Jun 9, '09 12:34 pm
    chewchoo
    see this link
    http://www.footprintsofgodpilgrimage...iesGeneric.pdf
    at steve ray's website for the list of the actual locations of the mysteries of the rosary
  5. chewchoo
    Jun 1, '09 1:05 pm
    chewchoo
    joan, who did you travel with in the holy land? who was your group leader, i mean? the heart shaped rocks were right at the bottom of the steps down to the beach at the primacy of peter.
  6. chewchoo
    Jun 1, '09 1:03 pm
    chewchoo
    hi joan. i want to go back to the holy land too. it was so awesome! just from my own personal travels, i have been taking a big trip every other year. the first two included rome and this last one was the holy land. when is really up to you and your personal situation. but going back is definitely a must. i didn't spend nearly enough time at the holy sepulchre
  7. jmlehr
    Jun 1, '09 11:49 am
    jmlehr
    Thanks for the great picture of the 3 heart shaped stones. How cool is that. We did not see those when I was there. I think I was too excited to touch the water on the Sea of Galilee. Anyway, thanks for sharing I learned something new.
    God Bless,
    Joan
  8. jmlehr
    Jun 1, '09 11:36 am
    jmlehr
    Hello everyone. I was in the Holy Land in November 2008. I loved it!!!! I am wondering when I should go back. I'm not rich so I wonder if I should save and go every three years or every five. Does anyone have any thoughts on this? I have not been to Rome yet either. Should I go to Rome next time or the Holy Land. Let me know your thoughts everyone.
  9. chewchoo
    May 2, '09 6:00 pm
    chewchoo
    one of the things steve ray does for his groups is offer ($25 for a dozen) olive wood rosaries on the first day of the trip. then as we progress thru the holy sites we lay our rosaries on the holy places and we say a decade of the rosary there. we visited the location for all 20 mysteries of the rosary.
  10. chewchoo
    Apr 29, '09 7:04 am
    chewchoo
    not exactly the holy land - but surely these are holy places.

    the monasteries of Meteora, Greece!!
    monasteries in the sky, perched on towering monoliths of solid rock.
    google meteora, greece and check out these awesome monasteries.



   

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