People who attend both forms of the Mass

The biggest advantage of the novus ordo mass is more biblical readings and the 3 year cicle.......everything else i prefer the tridentine.

The anglican ordinariate whenever it becomes more established and contains enough parishes, might potentially play a significant role in the revival of traditional catholicism, which an english language context. It is the great hope. I am a big believer in having both forms enrich each other, but ultimately I am against the novus ordo as it is now. I pray that eventually the new form incorporates 99% of the old form in good english translations (even better than the ones about to be introduced), which will probably be achieved when the english/knott missal is allowed to be used, which is a word for word extraordinary form translation used by Mt Calvary Church in Baltimore which I attended and was spectacular, Mt Calvary is a flagship future ordinariate parish. The new translation and gradual shift of teaching to regain what was lost 40 years ago will help. It is a slow process which I personally have little patience for, yet I know I must have faith...

I quote "In a time when churches of every description are faced with Vanishing Male Syndrome, men are showing up at Eastern Orthodox churches in numbers that, if not numerically impressive, are proportionately intriguing. This may be the only church which attracts and holds men in numbers equal to women. As Leon Podles wrote in his 1999 book, "The Church Impotent: The Feminization of Christianity," "The Orthodox are the only Christians who write basso profundo church music, or need to.

I had experiences that were all very similar this article in both eastern catholic churches and traditional extraordinary form churches. Both have more close knit communities and more men in leadership traditions, reliquaries, monarchists etc..strong overlap.

I think the advantages of both eastern rite liturgies and traditional latin rite liturgies are mutually shared.

Yes, user devout catholic shows wisdom what was said. I am a 28 year old man and I feel that many contemporary/modernist latin rite parishes music and atmosphere is too effeminate. I also attend a mass which has difficult Gregorian chant sung by Brother Albert (Canon of New Jerusalem), whom I like to sing along with, and am in the process of forming a car pool to attend it more often since the price of gas increases, I joined this. I also am working on a bi-lingual gregorian chant hymnal, with music in both latin and english adaptions, to be published in a first edition 2012, which includes rare pre-reformation sequences ment for the mass, besides liturgy of hours/divine office hymns. Very few churches in my area show movement to accept traditional music, nevertheless, the support grows stronger every year, 2012 may be a watershed in acceptance becoming more politically acceptable, as new mass liturgy takes effect.

I attend both because I cannot afford the expense of going exclusively to the EF. Furthermore, I play the organ for a living, and am not able to attend most Sunday mornings. I play for protestants on Sunday morning (they pay well because they are much more generous to their churches than Catholics) and Catholics at Saturday Vigil mass (for free, because we get to do the traditional tunes such as "Grosser Gott" [words: "Holy God, We Praise Thy Name"] and "Non Dignus" [words: "O Lord, I Am Not Worthy"]. When faced with the prospect of attending mass with folk/rock/LifeTeen music, I prefer to attend a mass with no music whatsoever. At the EF mass, a good 80% of the young men sing in the choir (very difficult Gregorian Chant). At LifeTeen masses I have attended at many different churches, I see maybe 3% of the boys singing in the choir, even with easy music. So, I think the EF masses exonerate themselves with their music.

When you say Extraordinary form of the Mass do you mean a Latin version of the new Mass or the Tridentine Mass?

I am fortunate to attend Masses in a church with dual rite. The same priests say alternatelly both rites. It is a wonderful experience. Both forms are influencing the other.

The new rite is as reverent as the old one, and the old rite emphasizes the participation of the people, all chant the Ordinary in Gregorian tone ; and both shows that the difference between the rites in minimal.

This is the St John Cantius fathers, they are in Chicago and Volo IL

I am grateful for this forum since I frequently feel torn between the two masses. I usually attend the OF mass since it's 4 miles from home; the Latin Mass is one hour away and my budget cannot always accomodate the gas expense.

I was raised with the Latin Mass until age 10 when Vatican II swept in; I was told that the new mass would "open the windows and let in some air". I noticed less air coming in and more people walking out, me included for a while. I came back in my 30's, confirmed by a bright and warm Vatican II priest but my sponsor was a very traditional adherent to the Latin Mass. I was confused for a while because I had been away for 15 years. I attended my childhood church a few times where a very liberal priest interjected his own words and ideas into the communion prayers: "forgive us our sins, especially the sin of not having an imagination" (Honest--verbatim.) I began to talk more with my sponsor and to seek out Latin Mass when I could.

I do find my mind wanders less at Latin Mass. I feel more strength after mass and through the week. I notice more prayers of protection, more Hail Mary's, the Michael the Archangel prayer, more thoughtful, spiritual homilies. Further, I must say that at this particular church I see more fellowship, friendliness, reaching out. I locked my keys in my car and quickly was given a cell phone and someone's AAA card. Earlier someone slipped me a twenty dollar bill so I could get enough gas to get home (long story). On a negative note, I might add that I feel a bit "left out" and do have problems hearing and keeping up with the prayers and responses at the Latin Mass. Sometimes the parishioners appear opinionated and arrogant and I miss humility. But maybe they have just cause to be opinionated.

On the other hand, I have gone to the other OF church more often yet the parishioners still don't remember my name after 15 years. And worse, I do have greater distractions at this church. Yet the bottom line for me is the Eucharist. I know that the Eucharist is the most important part of mass. So I attend the local church whenever I can to receive the Eucharist and I offer up the secular music and distractions and try to focus on God. I attend the Latin Mass about every three months.

I agree with Odile 53 that one form encourages contemplation while another encourages expression. That may say it all.

I attend the OF because 1) it's what I'm used to 2) It's too much trouble to make it the 1/month early AM EF and 3) Going to the EF Mass with 3 little kids is painful.

I used to really enjoy the EF and was glad when the Church decided to re-incorporate some of the traditional parts to the OF Mass. However, I have several family members that are schismatic with the PPX/PPV cults that deny the validity of the OF. They hijacked my Grandmothers funeral and made a mockery out of the Church and since then when I go to the Latin mass it just reminds me of them, unfortunately.

I'm very blessed to attend a parish which offers both. My Sunday doesn't seem complete unless I have attended both. In the OF, we have the congegational singing, mixture of English and Latin, all the readings are in English, etc. In the EF, there's a certain kid of reverence and mystery about it that the OF doesn't have. It's a different flavor, if you will, of the Mass. I love listening to the priest and picking out as much of what he's saying as I can. I also love sacred polyphony, and even though our church has it in both Masses, it seems to shine in the EF. There's also not much room for abuse in the EF, so when you attend one, you know what you're getting, except that sometimes you don't know what level the Mass will be celebrated. A solemn High Mass at the Feast of the Assumption last year is what got me interested in the EF, and it was almost as if Heaven touched Earth.

I love both forms of the Mass, after all, both have the true presence of Christ in the Holy Eucharist. I wish my parish offered both forms, but I guess I'm fortunate in that my diocese has two churches which offer the EF.

For me, the EF lends itself more to contemplation, and the OF lends itself more to expression. My parish is a very active OF parish, and I enjoy the fellowship. The church that offers the EF tends to draw attendees from all over the diocese, and there doesn't seem to be all that much bonding among the congregation.

Both have their place in my heart.