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Exporter Mar 23, '05 8:20 am

MYSTIC - Father Andrew Wingate
 
I heard Father Andrew Wingate on the radio. What is his story? <http://www.trumpetersmission.com/messages_faqs.htm>FAQ

http://www.trumpetersmission.com/ Main Page

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=Father+Andrew+Wingate&btn G=Google+Search Google search.

This priest is of the Old Catholic stem. He is a mystic. He frequiently makes prophetic statements. The site "TrumpetersMission" has a FAQ . Does anyone know of him? I think he is a consiencious fake.

http://users.skynet.be/courlisius/predictions_full_of_grieve.html Catholic Prophecy. Father Wingate predicts gloom and doom soon. He says abortion, homosexuality, rampant sexuality and war will have to be paid for by the U.S.A.

Mijoy2 Mar 23, '05 9:20 am

Re: MYSTIC - FATHER ANDREW WINGATE
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Exporter
I heard Father Andrew Wingate on the radio. What is his story? <http://www.trumpetersmission.com/messages_faqs.htm>FAQ

http://www.trumpetersmission.com/ Main Page

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=Father+Andrew+Wingate&btn G=Google+Search Google search.

This priest is of the Old Catholic stem. He is a mystic. He frequiently makes prophetic statements. The site "TrumpetersMission" has a FAQ . Does anyone know of him? I think he is a consiencious fake.

http://users.skynet.be/courlisius/predictions_full_of_grieve.html Catholic Prophecy. Father Wingate predicts gloom and doom soon. He says abortion, homosexuality, rampant sexuality and war will have to be paid for by the U.S.A.

Time has already expired on some of his predictions.
For example:

The last of six major terrorist attacks on the US will occur before Sept 2004.

Hmmm he seems to be a bit off the mark.

Exporter Mar 23, '05 7:20 pm

Re: MYSTIC - FATHER ANDREW WINGATE
 
Lattee today I read that Father Wingate was ordained by the "Old" Catholoc Church. That is not Roman Catholic!

Mijoy2 Mar 24, '05 12:22 pm

Re: MYSTIC - FATHER ANDREW WINGATE
 
I get curious as to what the motivation of these end-time prophets are.

They develop pretty professional looking web-sites and state some pretty profound prophesies. Is the motivation money (sales on web site), are they delisional and really believe God has singled them out to give them an accurate account of what is to come?????

Sister Victoria Jun 15, '09 11:33 pm

Re: MYSTIC - Father Andrew Wingate
 
:)This is the first time I have posted a message on one of these sites. I hope I do it correctly. I saw a few comments about the mystic, Fr. Andrew Wingate. Someone questioned the motives of an End Times mystic. I thought I would take a minute and try to respond just a little bit. I have known Fr. Andrew my whole life. I grew up with him. He is my oldest brother. He is just an ordinary guy. I never even knew anything about his mystical experiences until 1986, and even when I found out, I did not believe it. It was just too much for me to believe. No one in our family did. But then, we were pretty cynical about most things supernatural at that point in our lives.

I only began to consider it could be possible until 1996, 13 years ago. Since then, because of what I have seen, I have come to believe God does talk to him. When I started to believe it might be true, I asked him (not to be rude, but I wanted to know) why would God pick him (I thought God must have had a pretty funny sense of humor to pick Andy). Andy said he asked God the same thing, and God said something to the effect that if there was someone more miserable out there, He would have picked him.

Fr. Andrew (or Andy, as I call him) is poor as a church mouse. He does not get any money for what he does. He is not in it for the glory (that's for sure). He says he only does it because Our Lord said it would please Him if Andy would do it for Him.

If Andy gets some of the details wrong, it isn't because God gave him some bad information, but because Andy must have misunderstood what God was trying to tell him.

Apparently God lets mystics get things wrong once in a while to keep them humble. If you have a specific question about certain details, ask him. He is not a liar. And if he had his choice, he really would like to not have this mission. But Our Lord asked him to do it, so he does it to please Him. If you don't get an answer right away, don't worry about it. Be patient. He works very hard and is almost always in a lot of pain. His e-mail address can be found in his website TrumpetersMission.com, [email protected]. At least I think that is it. It has been a long time since I e-mailed him.

Anyway, as far as I can tell, he is the real thing. God bless you all.

Sr.Victoria [email protected]
(also known as Sr. Joseph Juniper Wingate (I tried using the name "Sr. Juniper" as my sign-on name, but it was taken).



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Originally Posted by Exporter (Post 520009)
I heard Father Andrew Wingate on the radio. What is his story? <http://www.trumpetersmission.com/messages_faqs.htm>FAQ

http://www.trumpetersmission.com/ Main Page

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=Father+Andrew+Wingate&btn G=Google+Search Google search.

This priest is of the Old Catholic stem. He is a mystic. He frequiently makes prophetic statements. The site "TrumpetersMission" has a FAQ . Does anyone know of him? I think he is a consiencious fake.

http://users.skynet.be/courlisius/predictions_full_of_grieve.html Catholic Prophecy. Father Wingate predicts gloom and doom soon. He says abortion, homosexuality, rampant sexuality and war will have to be paid for by the U.S.A.


Chipper Jun 16, '09 11:29 am

Re: MYSTIC - Father Andrew Wingate
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sister Victoria (Post 5330562)
:)This is the first time I have posted a message on one of these sites. I hope I do it correctly. I saw a few comments about the mystic, Fr. Andrew Wingate.
Anyway, as far as I can tell, he is the real thing. God bless you all.

Sr.Victoria [email protected]
(also known as Sr. Joseph Juniper Wingate (I tried using the name "Sr. Juniper" as my sign-on name, but it was taken).

Okay, this is really weird on my part. My Sister who has New Age tendencies, emailed me a couple of days ago and sent me to Andrew Wingates website. She emailed me becaue I was trying to do my own analysis on China (Red Dragon), Sun Tzu Art of War, and possible future takeover of the U.S. My Sister was trying to correlate Wingates prophecies with my analysis. What is strange here is the timing of your post on Wingate, my sisters email and my analysis, as such my curiosity is peaked to say the least.

Understand I am not a prophet, I just like to analyze things.

But it seems to me That Andrew is a member of the "Old Roman Catholic Church". This group does not "accept" the authority of the Pope. Doesn't this make them a "Schismatic" group? They also seem to have an abherance towards Vatican II.

Now, on the one hand Andrew claims to have worked with Pope John Paul II in his dreams, then later he had a visit with the Pope, where he claims the Pope told him to pursue an ordination.

This seems like a contradiction to me. He is a member of a group that does not recognize Papal authority, and yet he relies on validation from the Pope? Doesn't this seem strange?

Or am I wrong? Why would the Pope tell a married man, with kids, to become a priest, when it goes against the norms of the Real Roman Catholic church?

:confused:

DawnInTexas Jun 16, '09 12:57 pm

Re: MYSTIC - Father Andrew Wingate
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Chipper (Post 5332409)
Okay, this is really weird on my part. My Sister who has New Age tendencies, emailed me a couple of days ago and sent me to Andrew Wingates website. She emailed me becaue I was trying to do my own analysis on China (Red Dragon), Sun Tzu Art of War, and possible future takeover of the U.S. My Sister was trying to correlate Wingates prophecies with my analysis. What is strange here is the timing of your post on Wingate, my sisters email and my analysis, as such my curiosity is peaked to say the least.

Understand I am not a prophet, I just like to analyze things.

But it seems to me That Andrew is a member of the "Old Roman Catholic Church". This group does not "accept" the authority of the Pope. Doesn't this make them a "Schismatic" group? They also seem to have an abherance towards Vatican II.

Now, on the one hand Andrew claims to have worked with Pope John Paul II in his dreams, then later he had a visit with the Pope, where he claims the Pope told him to pursue an ordination.

This seems like a contradiction to me. He is a member of a group that does not recognize Papal authority, and yet he relies on validation from the Pope? Doesn't this seem strange?

Or am I wrong? Why would the Pope tell a married man, with kids, to become a priest, when it goes against the norms of the Real Roman Catholic church?

:confused:

They are not obedient to Pope Benedict XVI, you are correct. I found this out while investigating a fellow on youtube who is masquereding as a Catholic Priest. Watching his clips, I knew something wasn't right (heretic). I was right. He is "Old Catholic" but doesn't elaborate. I went as far as to write his Bishop. The Bishop backed him. I asked why they wouldn't want to advertise "Old" (make the distinction) in the case anyone was interested in what he had to say?---and wanted to convert to THEIR faith?

I can't remember the history of "Old Catholic." Actually, who cares? As long as you are aware that not everything with "Catholic" in its name is not what it seems to be.

Lots going on "out here." Like Father Corapi says, "Know your Faith!!!"
+Pax, -Dawn

Chipper Jun 16, '09 1:18 pm

Re: MYSTIC - Father Andrew Wingate
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DawnInTexas (Post 5332789)
They are not obedient to Pope Benedict XVI, you are correct. I found this out while investigating a fellow on youtube who is masquereding as a Catholic Priest. Watching his clips, I knew something wasn't right (heretic). I was right. He is "Old Catholic" but doesn't elaborate. I went as far as to write his Bishop. The Bishop backed him. I asked why they wouldn't want to advertise "Old" (make the distinction) in the case anyone was interested in what he had to say?---and wanted to convert to THEIR faith?

I can't remember the history of "Old Catholic." Actually, who cares? As long as you are aware that not everything with "Catholic" in its name is not what it seems to be.

Lots going on "out here." Like Father Corapi says, "Know your Faith!!!"
+Pax, -Dawn

Actually the "Old Catholic" faith was started in northern Europe, when in the 1800's they called the idea of "Papal Infallibility" a novel idea, and split with Rome.

Then later they evolved into "Old Roman Catholic Church" and acknowedge" the Pope, as first among equals, but they don't "accept" his Papal authority, at least as far as I can tell.

I believe both of these think they are "Orthodox" and apostolic, since they do have a direct lineage of Ordination back to St. Peter.

Another strange thing, is the "Old Roman Catholic Church" refers to themselves as a "Democratic" church. This is really scary. Can you imagine Nancy Pelosi going up on a platform and espousing her "Democratic" ideals on this church?

Frankly, I don't trust them.


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