Anglicans and the Catholic Church

georgetoman · #1 Oct 20, '09, 1:08 pm

I'm sure that many of you have read that the Vatican launched an initiative this morning (October 20, 2009) to welcome the Anglican community into our beloved Roman Catholic Church. This move, without a doubt, opens the door to so many possibilities to bring back many into the Church that we love. My thoughts are simple - this is a great day, but prayers are needed. What do you all think?

bkovacs · #2 Oct 20, '09, 1:11 pm

God Bless these Anglicans. They will offer allot to the Anglican Use parishes, and the Catholic Church as a whole. But more importantly, they now have a permanent home. God Bless them all!!. Welcome to your new home!!.

Parry Anyone!!. Maybe a little John Rutter music is now in order.

corsair · #3 Oct 20, '09, 1:32 pm

I agree, but its like our own Catholic church, many will reject Traditional practices. Many Anglicans will support women priests, abortion, same sex marriages. Yes, we'll gain many, many Anglicans but not all of them. Poor old Archbishop of Canterbury just doesn't get it yet. His ship is in real trouble.

Aidan12 · #4 Oct 20, '09, 2:30 pm

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Originally Posted by corsair

I agree, but its like our own Catholic church, many will reject Traditional practices. Many Anglicans will support women priests, abortion, same sex marriages.

The Anglicans who petitioned the Holy Father for reunion do not support the ordination of women, abortion, or same sex marriages. They subscribe to the Catechism of the Catholic Church.

Please do not confuse these Anglicans with American Episcopalians or other liberal churches which are part of the worldwide Anglican Communion which has the Archbishop of Canterbury as it leader.

ljubim · #5 Oct 20, '09, 3:09 pm

I'm excited!! I'm really liking this coming-home sentiment that is sweeping through non-Catholics

ServoFides · #6 Oct 20, '09, 3:18 pm

http://www.ewtn.com/vnews/getstory.asp?number=98280#

This is wonderful news! Ut unum sint!

GIR · #7 Oct 20, '09, 3:40 pm

Authentic ecumenism at work

7 Sorrows · #8 Oct 20, '09, 4:06 pm

talk about your prayers being answered. this morning i took a day trip through a beautiful canyon and was admiring the foliage and was praying that someday the anglicans could be united with the Catholic church. i was brought up in the American Episcopal church.
my father was Catholic. i stopped attending church as most young people do when i went away to college. as an adult i would pop in and out and realized that there were things happening in the Episcopal church that i did not approve of. about 12 years ago, i contemplated joining the Catholic church, but gave the Episcopal church one last chance.
i could see that the Episcopal church had really gone astray. i had a wonderful priest who gave us classes on what was happening withint the Episcopal church and how they were straying so far away from the teachings of the true Church. i joined an Anglican church that had split off of an Episcopal church and made the final leap to the Catholic church a year and a half ago. the idea that you can be Anglican and still be Catholic is music to my ears. by this, i don't mean female priests or bishops or homosexual partnership marriages or blessings. i mean that if the Anglicans choose, they can have the Anglican Use rite which will be more available. i am curious if there will be a new Book of Common Prayer issued to Anglicans who have joined under the Holy Father.
anyhow, back to my day trip. i came home and took a nap and thought i would get on the computer and check the news before i attend evening mass and i saw the headlines about the Pope making big news. i was curious about what this news was. so i opened up the page and was so happy to read this. a warmness filled by heart. i am so appreciative to Pope Benedict XVI for doing this. all the while growing up in the Episcopal church, i secretly wanted to be "all the way Catholic". now i am happy that he has made it easier for those who have felt like they have not had a home for so many years. i know that there are whole parishes who were waiting for this. my prayers were answered.

dcana · #9 Oct 20, '09, 10:10 pm

Alleluia, such wonderful news! The best thing of all is that they are now going to be able to partake of the Eucharist as Jesus has longed that they do. It's an utter disgrace and a shame that they have been deprived of this greatest source of grace for so long.

Jehoshua · #10 Oct 20, '09, 11:26 pm

Hallelujah. It is a great day for christendom and a step forward towards the reunification of the Catholic Church with the anglicans who look to Rome. However the journey is not yet finished and we should pray for the plans success.

Someone said earlier about a new book of common prayer. I believe the new anglican use parishes have a catholicised version already, called the Book of Divine Worship.

Jason_1977 · #11 Oct 21, '09, 12:08 am

Check it out, Anglican & Episcopalian are 2 words that mean the same thing, same group. The thing is they are split down the middle. HALF of us were on the same page as Rome, we just never really cared what went on in Rome. NOW this big split down the middle, MANY episcopalians MYSELF INCLUDED have already converted to catholicism!!
There is no difference really, there are a few things I missed from the anglican rites, but it's really one rite for another, what's in a rite? As long as the important things are being celebrated, the mass is legit. Now I'm wondering NOW that the open door is there for the church of england, ie; Anglican, Episcopalian, I guess now it's a question of finding a church that subscribes to it & have a congregation that carries on as normal, & mentions the pope in prayer. The teachings would be the same, lol. I was in agreement w. the RCC with the bulk of everything, (there was so much more to know & digest) but I'm actually happy, but how fun it would be to sing those beautiful hymns again, & be in communion w. Rome at the same time. MY question I guess is now that I am a confirmed catholic, IF I sought out one of these Rome embracing anglican rite churches, would I be in the wrong? I'd be catholic attending an anglican rite....I'm thinking, if it's same same, then its same same. I'm just so happy that the door is open to the church of england! Rome has basically granted the episcopalians a huge opportunity for deliverance. I feel no pity for the Archbishop of Canterbury, he's done NOTHING to quell the nonsense going on within his church. HE NEEDS the carpet pulled from under his feet. It's about time bishops started acting like bishops & Benedict is the ONLY one I see doing what a bishop does best; take charge.

Like · #12 Oct 21, '09, 12:59 am

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Originally Posted by Jason_1977

Check it out, Anglican & Episcopalian are 2 words that mean the same thing, same group. The thing is they are split down the middle. HALF of us were on the same page as Rome, we just never really cared what went on in Rome. NOW this big split down the middle, MANY episcopalians MYSELF INCLUDED have already converted to catholicism!!
There is no difference really, there are a few things I missed from the anglican rites, but it's really one rite for another, what's in a rite? As long as the important things are being celebrated, the mass is legit. Now I'm wondering NOW that the open door is there for the church of england, ie; Anglican, Episcopalian, I guess now it's a question of finding a church that subscribes to it & have a congregation that carries on as normal, & mentions the pope in prayer. The teachings would be the same, lol. I was in agreement w. the RCC with the bulk of everything, (there was so much more to know & digest) but I'm actually happy, but how fun it would be to sing those beautiful hymns again, & be in communion w. Rome at the same time. MY question I guess is now that I am a confirmed catholic, IF I sought out one of these Rome embracing anglican rite churches, would I be in the wrong? I'd be catholic attending an anglican rite....I'm thinking, if it's same same, then its same same. I'm just so happy that the door is open to the church of england! Rome has basically granted the episcopalians a huge opportunity for deliverance. I feel no pity for the Archbishop of Canterbury, he's done NOTHING to quell the nonsense going on within his church. HE NEEDS the carpet pulled from under his feet. It's about time bishops started acting like bishops & Benedict is the ONLY one I see doing what a bishop does best; take charge.

Aloha Jason!
Once a local Episcopalian church is united under Rome you would be OK to attend the rite. In fact we have 4 or 5 Anglican churches here on our Island of which one is very large & beautiful, much more so than any of the local Catholic Churches. If this or one of the others become united with Rome, I will be attending to at least see if they might be more traditional than our Church.

May his Holiness Pope Benedict XVI live another hundred years!

paperwight · #13 Oct 21, '09, 2:22 am

Can someone clarify for me, please?

I know that any clergy will have to go through a process before they are ordained as Catholic priests.

But what about the laity? Will they have to go through a modified RCIA process and be received as individuals?

georgetoman · #14 Oct 21, '09, 8:57 am

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Originally Posted by paperwight

Can someone clarify for me, please?

I know that any clergy will have to go through a process before they are ordained as Catholic priests.

But what about the laity? Will they have to go through a modified RCIA process and be received as individuals?

I do not know how the process will work. All I know is that it will be easier to convert to the Catholic faith with the Apostolic Constitution in place. I'm sure we'll know the details of the Constitution soon. Prayer and patience will have to do for now.

SeanTom · #15 Oct 21, '09, 1:05 pm

For further info. It is my understanding that Priests from the Anglican church can transfer over as priests into the Catholic faith after a considerable amount of training that will be required before ordination. This includes Anglican priests that are already married.

Also, an Anglican married priest who transfers over, and his wife dies, will not be allowed to remarry. Future former Anglicans must be single and take a vow to remain single before taking their vows.

I heard this morning that there are approximately 400,000 Anglicans that will be transferring over to the Catholic faith.

Also, there is one Anglican Bishop in this country, forgot the state, that is seeking transferring over their complete diocese to the Catholic faith.

This transfer movement will be more applied to the Anglicans in England as many of the Anglicans in the states have already left their community and started their own faith.

Finally, the Anglicans seeking transfer to the Catholic faith will be brought into their own RITE as the Byzantine church, and other, churches who are members of the Catholic faith. A roman Catholic will be able to receive Communion from any Anglican church in the Catholic Rite. Many of the rituals of the Anglican faith will be accepted as long as they don't interfere with the doctrines of the Roman Catholic faith.