Prophecies of St. Malachy

[obvious_ron]

A friend sent me a link to this article: Saint's Prophecy: Only Two Popes Remain. Is there any truth here or is it all a myth?

[moira]

It's private prophecy so it doesn't have to be believed but it is kind of interesting. Only time will tell.

[Sparky]

I'm curious, if the glory of olives is benedictine - whose a benedictine cardinal?

Anyone know?
--Ann

[Lisa4Catholics]

Interesting

[Stone Cold]

Originally Posted by Sparky

I'm curious, if the glory of olives is benedictine - whose a benedictine cardinal?

Anyone know?
--Ann

I don't know who is a Benedictine Cardinal but I know Albert Pujols is a St. Louis Cardinal.

A little baseball humor on opening day.

[HagiaSophia]

Originally Posted by Sparky

I'm curious, if the glory of olives is benedictine - whose a benedictine cardinal?

There are several other meanings to "gloriae olivae".

Also an entire other thread on this same subject:

http://forums.catholic.com/showthread.php?t=47525

[Lisa4Catholics]

Originally Posted by HagiaSophia

There are several other meansing to "gloriae olivae".

Well do not tease us Hagia What are they?

[HagiaSophia]

Originally Posted by Lisa4Catholics

Well do not tease us Hagia What are they?

1) A member or supporter of the Italian political party bearing that name.

2) A sprig from the root of Jesse, that is a cardinal with Jewish antecedents

3) A priest of the Benedictine order also called the Olivetans

4) One with the olive branch or tree in his personal or family coat of arms

5) One who reconciles or concilates or brings people together in some dramatic fashion and if I've heard it once, I've heard this 100 times this week: "we need reconciliation between the bishops.priests and laity."

Keep in mind too, that often the meaning of any true prophecy is not clearly seen until after we see "who" it is.....going to be very interesting and may have a meaning not yet seen by us until after he gets the job.

[Ani Ibi]

Thanks, Hagia, for that explanation. Also, vaguely vaguely at the back of my mind, does the Malachi prophecy not predict some version of endtimes; that is, that there will be a couple of popes before Peter II and then Jesus will come again. Is another prophecy not that an antichrist will bring about a false peace in the Middle East and then Jesus will bring the true peace? Can the olive reference also be about the peace process in the Middle East?

[HagiaSophia]

Originally Posted by Ani Ibi

Thanks, Hagia, for that explanation. Also, vaguely vaguely at the back of my mind, does the Malachi prophecy not predict some version of endtimes; that is, that there will be a couple of popes before Peter II and then Jesus will come again. Is another prophecy not that an antichrist will bring about a false peace in the Middle East and then Jesus will bring the true peace? Can the olive reference also be about the peace process in the Middle East?

No the Malachi prophecy strictly concerns itself with single individuals who take the papal throne. It says nothing about the end of the world, and I have never accepted someone's interpretation (I have no idea who) that there will b e several before Peter Romanus --the entire prophecy is a chronological list in order --there is no inference that anyone comes inbetween - they simply follow one another.

Well there are plenty of prophecies around.....many of which deal with a great persecution and then a church arising almost from the ashes of that but they have nothing to do with the Malachy prophecy.

[Traditional Ang]

Originally Posted by HagiaSophia

No the Malachi prophecy strictly concerns itself with single individuals who take the papal throne. It says nothing about the end of the world, and I have never accepted someone's interpretation (I have no idea who) that there will b e several before Peter Romanus --the entire prophecy is a chronological list in order --there is no inference that anyone comes inbetween - they simply follow one another.

Well there are plenty of prophecies around.....many of which deal with a great persecution and then a church arising almost from the ashes of that but they have nothing to do with the Malachy prophecy.

Hagia Sohpia:

St. Malachi does refer to Peter the Roman as ministering to the flock during a persecution.

If you saw the reaction of the Godless Goons of Death to the fight we put up for Terri, I do believe they've got one on tap.

In which case, both Glory of the Olive and Peter the Roman will have their work cut out for them.

BTW, there are some Patristic prophecies relating to the "End Times" that describe a "Great Apostasy" followed by a huge number of Jews converting to Our Lord and coming into the Church.

And, then there's the rather interesting one from an Eastern Orthodox Mystic:

http://www.stmichaelacademy.org/nilos.html

Either way, we need to spend MORE time on our knees and not less, and MORE time studying and talking about Our Lord and NOT less.

Those are the ones I know about that I'm willing to listen to.

Blessing and Peace, Michael

[HagiaSophia]

Originally Posted by Traditional Ang

St. Malachi does refer to Peter the Roman as ministering to the flock during a persecution.

But he does not say it is "the end of the world".

Originally Posted by Traditional Ang

If you saw the reaction of the Godless Goons of Death to the fight we put up for Terri, I do believe they've got one on tap.

Personally I thought the late pope prophetic when he told us the forces of Christ would be facing the forces of the anti-Christ.

Originally Posted by Traditional Ang

In which case, both Glory of the Olive and Peter the Roman will have their work cut out for them.

I don't doubt that one bit - not a bit.

Originally Posted by Traditional Ang

BTW, there are some Patristic prophecies relating to the "End Times" that describe a "Great Apostasy" followed by a huge number of Jews converting to Our Lord and coming into the Church.

And, then there's the rather interesting one from an Eastern Orthodox Mystic:

Yes, I am familiar with many of them, but we were discussing the Malachy prophecy and I was limiting myself to that specific one.

Originally Posted by Traditional Ang

Either way, we need to spend MORE time on our knees and not less, and MORE time studying and talking about Our Lord and NOT less.

That has been true in every age - and sadly I suspect will continue to be so.,

Originally Posted by Traditional Ang

Those are the ones I know about that I'm willing to listen to.

Like yourself,I pick and choose carefully.

[Traditional Ang]

Originally Posted by HagiaSophia

But he does not say it is "the end of the world".

HagiaSophia:

We have this quote:

In the final persecution of the Holy Roman Church there will reign Peter the Roman, who will feed his flock among many tribulations; after which the seven hilled city will be destroyed and the dreadful Judge will judge the people".

Sounds like a Great Tribulation followed by a Second Coming and a JUDGEMENT to me. ST. Malachy still doesn't "give the day or the hour". Just says that when Peter the Roman is done with his work, The world is done.

Either way, we need to Repent and get others to repent, because Popes' reigns can be short...

Goodnight.

Blessing and Peace, Michael

[Patchunky]

[quote=HagiaSophia]

Well there are plenty of prophecies around.....many of which deal with a great persecution and then a church arising almost from the ashes /QUOTE]

XPUCTOCb BOCKPEC!

Hasn't this already happened?

Look at the re-birth of Greek Catholic Church in Slovakia and Ukraine after decades of persecution??

I pray that Patriarch Husar will be our next Pope!

CHRISTOS VOSKRES!

[BillyT92679]

2) A sprig from the root of Jesse, that is a cardinal with Jewish antecedents

Does that mean Jean Marie Lustiger would be elected Pope?