62% of Catholics want change.

K-McD · #1 Apr 5, '05, 4:43 pm

News Flash

A new poll shows that 62% of all American Catholics want the next pope to relax the Church's position on the natural laws. "Freedom isn't freedom if we are continuously being suppressed by these laws," says Renee Nosalot. The poll shows the majority of Catholic want to be able to live without the restraints of the natural laws. "We need to be able to have the freedom to walk off a building and not have to worry about fall down," protests Albert Needsmore. "I lot of my friends want to walk on water as well. After all, its in the Bible. The Bible says Jesus walked on water and levitated, didn't He?".......blah, blah, blah

Sounds ridiculous? Well, if it doesn't work for the natural laws, it certainly won't work for the moral laws.

**Ani Ibi** · #2 Apr 5, '05, 4:46 pm

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Originally Posted by K-McD

blah, blah, blah

I understand the blah blah blah, but the part about changing stuff? Ha! Let em want.

mommy · #3 Apr 5, '05, 4:57 pm

Thankfully in the 2000 year church history it didn't change when the people whined.

Lucania · #4 Apr 5, '05, 5:25 pm

Waa-aaa-ah! Want some cheese with that whine? Join the Episcopal church for crying out loud! These people are becoming so TEDIOUS!

Genesis315 · #5 Apr 5, '05, 5:29 pm

Do these people think that this is the first time in 2000 years that people wanted change, that they thought their time was too complex? The only difference is they would have been formally excommunicated back in the day.

awalt · #6 Apr 5, '05, 5:45 pm

Come on Holy Spirit, do you best work PLEASE!!!!!

JKirkLVNV · #7 Apr 5, '05, 5:48 pm

62% of Catholics need to get over themselves.

BOBKAT · #8 Apr 5, '05, 6:07 pm

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Originally Posted by JKirkLVNV

62% of Catholics need to get over themselves.

I love it!!! I say we do some seeding and pray the Holy Spirit does some sowing. I love the church and and everything it stands for,so we could be in for a big fight.

God Bless
Kathleen

MrS · #9 Apr 5, '05, 6:11 pm

Catholics already have total religious freedom..... if they only understood that Freedom is the ability to do what is right.

The 62% seem to think that freedom is the ability to do what you want, right or wrong.

Dj Roy Albert · #10 Apr 6, '05, 2:40 am

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Originally Posted by JKirkLVNV

62% of Catholics need to get over themselves.

& get excommunicated.

Where's the Spanish Inqusition when you need it?

Scott_Lafrance · #11 Apr 6, '05, 2:54 am

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& get excommunicated.

Where's the Spanish Inqusition when you need it?

See my thread in the Apologetics section; American Inquisition

Scott_Lafrance · #12 Apr 6, '05, 2:50 am

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Originally Posted by JKirkLVNV

62% of Catholics need to get over themselves.

Let me see, the American Church is roughly 5% of the total Church. Let's assume that this poll was conducted on 2,000 people. The American Church consists of roughly 60,000,000 people. That's a representation of .003% of the Church. Of this MINISCULE number of people, 62% want doctrinal change. That is .002% of the church. So, whoever thinks that the new pontiff will pay any mind whatsoever to the whimsical demands of .0001% of the total church population needs to keep smoking that loco-weed.

Anna Elizabeth · #13 Apr 8, '05, 7:53 pm

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Originally Posted by JKirkLVNV

62% of Catholics need to get over themselves.

Anna

gnjsdad · #14 Apr 9, '05, 11:27 am

Let's hope the next Pope reigns for 50 years, so it'd be a long time before we're subjected again to all the "experts" and disgruntled Catholics clamoring for "change".

John_19_59 · #15 Apr 9, '05, 1:57 pm

Puzzleannie wrote...

yeah, you got it
we want nuns in habits back in the classroom and out of the limelight
we want priests to start preaching the Gospel of Jesus instead of the Gospel of hey lookit me ain't I a cute priest up here jammin'
we want lay people to pursue their true vocation, marriage and family instead of hankering for what they can't have
We want a return to the days when no matter where you travelled in the Catholic world, the Mass was the Mass and you always felt at home instead of being a stranger in a strange land

You know I'm sure that Pope John Paul II had the power and authority to address these issues.

But John Paul chose not to - at least not in serious sense.

I have been slightly worried about the adoration poured out these last few days. It appears that the world loved him, in spite - they claim - of his "backward theology", his "views on women", his "anti-homosexual stance", his "pro-life ethics", his "contribution to the death of millions of africans from aids" and other such caviats made by the people who "loved him".

"The world" loved him - but you have to be suspicious of anything that the world loves.

Why all this adoration from non-Catholics? It's very strange especially as most of them would still have no time for Catholicism.

The world admired John Paul because of his undoubted charisma and not because of his catholic teachings, they loved him because sometimes they saw "peace" and universal brotherhood before catholic teaching as at Assisi. They loved him because he didn't make them feel as though they should become Catholics.

In the end what did the Pope do for Catholicism? The Catholic Church is still viewed by the world with suspicion and even disgust - in fact this increased during his pontificate. It's almost as if the Pope was viewed as a great man in spite of his being a Catholic.

God help the next Pope if he's not media-savy. God help him if he doesn't "change" with the times.

The world backlash starts in 9 days time.

I have come to my point of view from being an ardent supporter of Pope John Paul II - albeit one who never really examined anything he taught at the time - after all he was the Pope.

It was painful when it was actually pointed out to me the reality of what he was doing and saying in light of traditional teaching.

God have mercy on him.

God have mercy on the next Pope.

RikasAngel wrote...

I'm from Los Angeles and we have a semi-independent (It's owned by Viacom) Superstation that reported a Gallup Poll which stated that 59% of Catholics Polled wanted a Pope that was Theologically similar to John Paul the Great! Go Figure

Precisely! Most Catholics want "progress".