Name Benedict fulfillment of Malachy prophesy?

[MamaGeek]

The Benedictines are known as Olivetans, are they not?

[Ani Ibi]

Originally Posted by MamaGeek

The Benedictines are known as Olivetans, are they not?

Yes, I am having a lot of trouble posting now. But yes, he had to have known of the Gloria Olivae of the Malachi Prophecy. Whew.

[Almeria]

He may have known, but I sure don't. Can you fill me in? What is the prophesy?

[Edwin1961]

I have also having difficulty getting around these forums (1200+ people)!

I read it here on another thread as in the process of finding it.
Benedict XV was before WWI and tried also to have peace, he failed. He died in 1922.
If I find more, I'll post it.

[dumspirospero]

http://www.catholicplanet.com/articles/article41.htm

I have found it...here is some info regarding the prophecy.

The First Pope After John Paul II

Pope #111 on St. Malachy's list is given the phrase: “From the Glory of the Olive.” This prophetic phrase has several meanings which correctly apply to the next Pope after John Paul II.

a. What is the glory of the olive? The olive branch is a well-known symbol of peace. The glory of the olive is peace. The next Pope after John Paul II will be a man of great peace. Peace will be his banner, peace will be his work, peace will be his goal. He will seek peace among individuals, among nations, among Catholics, between Catholics and other Christians, and between Catholics and adherents of other religions. The next Pope after John Paul II will have a Pontificate distinguished for seeking Peace around the world. He is correctly called the Pope of Peace.

St. Malachy's prophecy about John Paul II fit his Pontificate well, once it began. But, before being elected Pope, Karol Wojtyla did not distinguish himself by traveling constantly. The next Pope after John Paul II may not have distinguished himself yet in works of peace-making. Or, he may have distinguished himself in peace-making in God's eyes, but not yet in the eyes of the world.

b. Some say that this prediction of St. Malachy, “From the Glory of the Olive,” refers to the Order of St. Benedict, because they have a well-known group within their order called the 'Olivetans.' There is some merit to this idea. But it does not mean that this Pope will come from the Order of St. Benedict, but rather that he will take the name of Saint Benedict and will live in imitation of him.

c. The next Pope after John Paul II will take the name Pope Benedict XVI, in imitation of Saint Benedict and also of Pope Benedict XV. Just as Pope Benedict XV was an emissary of peace, so will Pope Benedict XVI be an emissary of peace. Just as Pope Benedict XV sought peace and spoke of peace and wrote papal documents seeking peace, so will Pope Benedict XVI do also. Just as Pope Benedict XV failed to achieve peace in the world, so will Pope Benedict XVI fail to achieve peace in the world. Just as the Pontificate of Benedict XV began prior to World War I, so will the Pontificate of Benedict XVI occur prior to World War III. After the Pontificate of Benedict XVI, World War III will begin. The Arab nations will threaten and attack the United States; they will threaten, attack, invade and conquer Europe; they will threaten, attack, invade and conquer the northern part of Africa. It is God's will.

d. Pope Benedict XVI will be like Saint Benedict, who lived in the fifth and sixth centuries. He will be a man dedicated to peace and holiness. There is another Saint Benedict, a well-known Saint called Saint Benedict the Black (il moro santo, the holy Moor). Pope Benedict XVI will also be like Saint Benedict the Black. Pope Benedict XVI will be a black man, like Saint Benedict the Moor. He will be a holy Pope, who reinforces the teaching of the Church in opposition to the errors of modern culture. [Note added April 19, 2005: I was mistaken when I thought that the next pope after John Paul II would be black. I am fallible. My predictions are also fallible.]

e. Pope Benedict XVI is mentioned in Sacred Scripture, in a hidden manner.

Click on the above link for more info.

[jimmy]

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Originally Posted by dumspirospero

http://www.catholicplanet.com/articles/article41.htm

I have found it...here is some info regarding the prophecy.

The First Pope After John Paul II

Pope #111 on St. Malachy's list is given the phrase: “From the Glory of the Olive.” This prophetic phrase has several meanings which correctly apply to the next Pope after John Paul II.

a. What is the glory of the olive? The olive branch is a well-known symbol of peace. The glory of the olive is peace. The next Pope after John Paul II will be a man of great peace. Peace will be his banner, peace will be his work, peace will be his goal. He will seek peace among individuals, among nations, among Catholics, between Catholics and other Christians, and between Catholics and adherents of other religions. The next Pope after John Paul II will have a Pontificate distinguished for seeking Peace around the world. He is correctly called the Pope of Peace.

St. Malachy's prophecy about John Paul II fit his Pontificate well, once it began. But, before being elected Pope, Karol Wojtyla did not distinguish himself by traveling constantly. The next Pope after John Paul II may not have distinguished himself yet in works of peace-making. Or, he may have distinguished himself in peace-making in God's eyes, but not yet in the eyes of the world.

b. Some say that this prediction of St. Malachy, “From the Glory of the Olive,” refers to the Order of St. Benedict, because they have a well-known group within their order called the 'Olivetans.' There is some merit to this idea. But it does not mean that this Pope will come from the Order of St. Benedict, but rather that he will take the name of Saint Benedict and will live in imitation of him.

c. The next Pope after John Paul II will take the name Pope Benedict XVI, in imitation of Saint Benedict and also of Pope Benedict XV. Just as Pope Benedict XV was an emissary of peace, so will Pope Benedict XVI be an emissary of peace. Just as Pope Benedict XV sought peace and spoke of peace and wrote papal documents seeking peace, so will Pope Benedict XVI do also. Just as Pope Benedict XV failed to achieve peace in the world, so will Pope Benedict XVI fail to achieve peace in the world. Just as the Pontificate of Benedict XV began prior to World War I, so will the Pontificate of Benedict XVI occur prior to World War III. After the Pontificate of Benedict XVI, World War III will begin. The Arab nations will threaten and attack the United States; they will threaten, attack, invade and conquer Europe; they will threaten, attack, invade and conquer the northern part of Africa. It is God's will.

d. Pope Benedict XVI will be like Saint Benedict, who lived in the fifth and sixth centuries. He will be a man dedicated to peace and holiness. There is another Saint Benedict, a well-known Saint called Saint Benedict the Black (il moro santo, the holy Moor). Pope Benedict XVI will also be like Saint Benedict the Black. Pope Benedict XVI will be a black man, like Saint Benedict the Moor. He will be a holy Pope, who reinforces the teaching of the Church in opposition to the errors of modern culture. [Note added April 19, 2005: I was mistaken when I thought that the next pope after John Paul II would be black. I am fallible. My predictions are also fallible.]

e. Pope Benedict XVI is mentioned in Sacred Scripture, in a hidden manner.

Click on the above link for more info.

I have read that article. That article is from Catholics from another planet. They have so much speculation in that article, it is amazing.

[CatholicHoser]

I also read the article. The writer claims to know the exact year that Christ comes again (2437 A.D.) . I believe that only God (Father, Son and Holy Spirit) know when the day and hour is.

I also believe it best that we always live as if Christ could come again at any moment, so we are prepared for it always. He Himself teaches us that, does He not?

[Brad]

Originally Posted by CatholicHoser

I also read the article. The writer claims to know the exact year that Christ comes again (2437 A.D.) . I believe that only God (Father, Son and Holy Spirit) know when the day and hour is.

I also believe it best that we always live as if Christ could come again at any moment, so we are prepared for it always. He Himself teaches us that, does He not?

Who IS the author? WWIII around 2010????

[K C]

Anyone who claims to know the exact day when Christ will return should be ignored, since Our Lord told us that "only the Father" knows this. I would avoid the website referred to above.

However, if anyone is interested in the list of popes foretold by St. Malachy, there is a book called "The Prophecies of St. Malachy" available for sale at tanbooks.com which was first printed in 1969. I have had a copy for years and found it fascinating. However, NO DATE is given for the return of Our Redeemer! I just checked Tan's website and the book is still available. (Although it may also be available elsewhere - this is in no way a sales pitch for this publisher - just a referral for those interested.)

Personally, I believe in the prophecies...but not in any "addendum" posted on any website.

[Stevereeno]

Originally Posted by K C

Anyone who claims to know the exact day when Christ will return should be ignored, since Our Lord told us that "only the Father" knows this.

Be careful of how you privately interpret that passage of Scripture. I do not know exactly what Christ meant by it, but, certainly you cannot deny that the Son and the Holy Spirit also know the day and the hour. To do so would be heresy.

[K C]

Originally Posted by Stevereeno

Be careful of how you privately interpret that passage of Scripture. I do not know exactly what Christ meant by it, but, certainly you cannot deny that the Son and the Holy Spirit also know the day and the hour. To do so would be heresy.

Christ was admonishing his apostles not to worry about "the day or the hour" of His return. (In fact, it is evident from the Gospels that they believed that Christ's kingdom would be established on earth within their own lifetimes!) God wants us to focus on our individual obligations rather than any specific "day or hour" of reckoning because, for most of us, that reckoning will come much sooner than the "end of the world" as we know it. However, Christ did not command that we not even "estimate" the approach of the "end times". In fact, He told us to watch for the "signs of the times".

No one has implied that Christ, as the Second Person of the Trinity, knows any less than the other two Persons. His exact meaning in saying "only the Father" knows is yet another mystery beyond human reason. (Perhaps He was deferring to the Father out of His profound humility.) Even the apostles often misunderstood His full meaning, so we are in good company in our ignorance!

I think that God knows it is in our human nature to wonder about the future, so He allows us small glimpses (prophecies) into it. However, this is not to instill FEAR of the future, but to REASSURE us that He will, indeed, return for us. As Christians - as Catholics - how can we recoil from such glimpses when they offer us the consolation that Our King will soon reign in triumph? And..still...we "know not the day nor the hour".

[Daniel/David]

Originally Posted by Brad

Who IS the author? WWIII around 2010????

Apparently he is the editor of CatholicPlanet.com but does not provide any information regarding his credentials (or lack thereof). I took a look at some of his other articles on this site. Here is a partial listing:

The Next Prolife President of the United States - by Ronald L. Conte Jr.
Information about the ten secrets of Medjugorje - by Ronald L. Conte Jr.
The Return of Jesus Christ in A.D. 2437 - by Ronald L. Conte Jr.
The Future According to the Book of Daniel - by Ronald L. Conte Jr.
A correction about the prophecies of Garabandal - by Ronald L. Conte Jr.

Are you noticing a theme here?

[preyoflove]

Originally Posted by Daniel/David

Apparently he is the editor of CatholicPlanet.com but does not provide any information regarding his credentials (or lack thereof). I took a look at some of his other articles on this site. Here is a partial listing:

The Next Prolife President of the United States - by Ronald L. Conte Jr.
Information about the ten secrets of Medjugorje - by Ronald L. Conte Jr.
The Return of Jesus Christ in A.D. 2437 - by Ronald L. Conte Jr.
The Future According to the Book of Daniel - by Ronald L. Conte Jr.
A correction about the prophecies of Garabandal - by Ronald L. Conte Jr.

Are you noticing a theme here?

Here's an interesting exchange between Mr. Ronald L. Conte Jr. and another Catholic: http://jloughnan.tripod.com/salconte.htm

[Daniel/David]

Preyoflove,

Thanks for that link........ you know Mr. Conte Jr. seems to do his research much the same as Dan Brown of Da Vinci infamy

[TPJCatholic]

The Malachy prophecy does NOT state that the Pope has to be a member of the Benedictine Order...