Debt Crisis

[The Republican]

The debt crisis in DC is is becoming more major. Do you think they should raise the debt celing, renew Bush tax cuts, or cut expenses?

[karebear92]

Increase the debt ceiling and cut spending. I believe the rich should pay more taxes as well. I am most certainly a conservative, but I don't believe economics should be conservative or liberal.

God bless!

[karebear92]

Originally Posted by The Republican

Wtf?

What? That makes perfect sense to me...

Haha you must be able to edit what we write...?

[The Republican]

Originally Posted by karebear92

What? That makes perfect sense to me...

Haha you must be able to edit what we write...?

Yes. Ijust got super bored and had a a wifi connection.

[Phyllo]

I think that spending should be cut. ObamaCare repealed. I don't think raising taxes on the rich would help. And how much income would one be called rich? We pay enough already. What about the 40 or so % that pay no tax at all? I for one am tired of carrying the burden for almost half of the nation. Aren't you?

[karebear92]

Originally Posted by Phyllo

I think that spending should be cut. ObamaCare repealed. I don't think raising taxes on the rich would help. And how much income would one be called rich? We pay enough already. What about the 40 or so % that pay no tax at all? I for one am tired of carrying the burden for almost half of the nation. Aren't you?

How does 500,000+ sound? haha. I don't know. It would have to be a percentage of the nation, so probably the top two or three percent. The top 1% of the nation should not control almost 50% of the money. And how wouldn't it help. More money would be coming in. Any time more money is coming in it will help the financial deficit. I agree that everyone able to pay taxes should pay them.

[Phyllo]

Originally Posted by karebear92

How does 500,000+ sound? haha. I don't know. It would have to be a percentage of the nation, so probably the top two or three percent. The top 1% of the nation should not control almost 50% of the money. And how wouldn't it help. More money would be coming in. Any time more money is coming in it will help the financial deficit. I agree that everyone able to pay taxes should pay them.

I don't know I am not a financial wizard but I think 500,000 might encompass the small business person who creates jobs. The more money they have the more they will spend. They need to cut the special interest stuff maybe the foreign aid and maybe even their own perks and live like the average person. Just a thought.

[karebear92]

Originally Posted by Phyllo

I don't know I am not a financial wizard but I think 500,000 might encompass the small business person who creates jobs. The more money they have the more they will spend. They need to cut the special interest stuff maybe the foreign aid and maybe even their own perks and live like the average person. Just a thought.

I agree, but I think that only works in an ideal world. Many times they just take the money for themselves and continue with their stingy practices. Such as firing employees with experience and hiring new ones out of college so they can pay them less. If people weren't greedy that would work, but, like all things, many people will take advantage of an opportunity rather than spread the wealth. I don't know. I think the whole system is screwed up pretty bad. I am just glad I am not an economist.

[Phyllo]

I think the whole system is screwed up pretty bad. I am just glad I am not an economist.

I agree. I think both parties are useless and only look out for themselves. Maybe the next administration, hopefully not Obama again, might do a little better. Too many good ole boys in government. I am for term limits. But we know they will never do that to themselves even though that is how our founding fathers wanted it. The founders never wanted politics to become a career move for some people. They are turning over in their graves.
Do you like Glenn Beck?.

[AntalKalnoky]

Originally Posted by Phyllo

I think that spending should be cut. ObamaCare repealed. I don't think raising taxes on the rich would help. And how much income would one be called rich? We pay enough already. What about the 40 or so % that pay no tax at all? I for one am tired of carrying the burden for almost half of the nation. Aren't you?

The 40% who pay no taxes are the Children and Poorest, minimum wage. What about the Very Richest, most Profitable 2% in the USA who pay Zero Taxes, and Get Federal Subsidies: Exxon-Mobil (Most Profitable Company in world History, Zero Taxes paid in the USA and Receives

$110 Million Tax-Payer Welfare/Payments yearly

; Ditto The Major Defense Business GE. Etc., Etc.

• These type Most Profitable Mega-Corporations Create jobs in Other Nations, not the USA, and Only Pay taxes in Other Nations?

Aware that the Mega Wealth Corporations

Create 4.5 New Jobs in Other Natiions for each one in the USA?

Know it. And they have Trillions of Unused Capital.

• And who Created the Massive Deficits we have to Borrow to even pay Interest on? GW Bush 2001 Policy of Reversing the Major Supluses ($28 Billion FY 2001) and full USA Employment of the 1990's. Renewal of Reaganomics, unregulated, which Initiated the Incredible Deficits from Carter's Balanced Budget, most new USA Jobs criteria successes.

And who Initiated the 50% Increase in Military Spending, Unpaid: Reagan and GW Bush, Each of whom avoided War Service.

• Where is Any Patriotism to the USA, Or Morality, or Catholicism in Any of These?

What Reason for Enriching the Richest, while Receiving Zero Tax Payments?

[Phyllo]

Originally Posted by AntalKalnoky

The 40% who pay no taxes are the Children and Poorest, minimum wage. What about the Very Richest, most Profitable 2% in the USA who pay Zero Taxes, and Get Federal Subsidies: Exxon-Mobil (Most Profitable Company in world History, Zero Taxes paid in the USA and Receives ; Ditto The Major Defense Business GE. Etc., Etc.

• These type Most Profitable Mega-Corporations Create jobs in Other Nations, not the USA, and Only Pay taxes in Other Nations?

Aware that the Mega Wealth Corporations Know it. And they have Trillions of Unused Capital.

• And who Created the Massive Deficits we have to Borrow to even pay Interest on? GW Bush 2001 Policy of Reversing the Major Supluses ($28 Billion FY 2001) and full USA Employment of the 1990's. Renewal of Reaganomics, unregulated, which Initiated the Incredible Deficits from Carter's Balanced Budget, most new USA Jobs criteria successes.

And who Initiated the 50% Increase in Military Spending, Unpaid: Reagan and GW Bush, Each of whom avoided War Service.

• Where is Any Patriotism to the USA, Or Morality, or Catholicism in Any of These?

What Reason for Enriching the Richest, while Receiving Zero Tax Payments?

Good points all. Maybe if the US was made more friendly towards manufacturing, regulations and taxes lifted from small businesses
things might pick up. Maybe if the EPA let us drill here we would not be dependant on foreign oil. The last few administrations have put us on the brink and this ones' aim is to throw us over the cliff. It is probably just me but I really think that this administration has its heart set on harming the US but I can't figure out what they would have to gain?

[AntalKalnoky]

Originally Posted by Phyllo

Good points all. Maybe if the US was made more friendly towards manufacturing, regulations and taxes lifted from small businesses
things might pick up. Maybe if the EPA let us drill here we would not be dependant on foreign oil. The last few administrations have put us on the brink and this ones' aim is to throw us over the cliff. It is probably just me but I really think that this administration has its heart set on harming the US but I can't figure out what they would have to gain?

Oil is quickly obsolete idea. EPA is not the problem. TheType of fuel is: Germany and China have Hydrogen Powered Cars and Buses; we think backward to Battery Powered Cars, a 1940's Impractical and counterproductive idea.

• An Ideal California idea of the 1980's is Algea Oil Fuel: Ideal; already used 2 years ago in a Jumbo Jet from Paris to Oshkosh WI. But our Developers could not get financial backing, so sold the Technology to Big Oil, which is advertising it and controlling It's Rights.

We get most of our foreign oil from our neighbors: Canada, Mexico, Alaska.

• The Current adminitration, which i did not vote for, is Trying to Save us from the Impossible Problems the Last Adminstration Created. Our $2 Trillion Cash available Big Money is creating 4.5 jobs in Other countries for each created in the USA.

[catmom50]

There is a solar panel company in Massachusetts that's called Evergreen that was given federal stimulus money that is filing for bankruptcy.
Bankruptcy seems to be the trend for green energy companies.

The good Lord has given us a supply of oil, gas, and coal. Let's keep using it.

Google "Bakken Oil field" in North Dakota.

North Dakota's unemployment never went above 3.9% during the entire recession. I know this because my husband is from North Dakota and has family there.

Also, check out the job growth in Texas. It's 40% of the US jobs created during the recession.



I am a Conservative/ Repub, and I love my country very much!!!!!
God help this great country, because the current administration sure isn't doing anything to make the economy or anything else for that matter better.

[AntalKalnoky]

Originally Posted by catmom50

There is a solar panel company in Massachusetts that's called Evergreen that was given federal stimulus money that is filing for bankruptcy.
Bankruptcy seems to be the trend for green energy companies.

The good Lord has given us a supply of oil, gas, and coal. Let's keep using it.
Google "Bakken Oil field" in North Dakota.
North Dakota's unemployment never went above 3.9% during the entire recession. I know this because my husband is from North Dakota and has family there.
Also, check out the job growth in Texas. It's 40% of the US jobs created during the recession.

I am a Conservative/ Repub, and I love my country very much!!!!!
God help this great country, because the current administration sure isn't doing anything to make the economy or anything else for that matter better.

I'm a Fiscal Conservative Catholic; we still live under the Massive Financial/Credit Collapses of 10/87 and 2008; that was a Principal reason for the collapse of Evergreen. Also, our Nation, because of those 2 adminstrations focused on 50% Greater Military spending, with All the Resulting false wars. The Massive Tax cuts to the Most Profitable, Richest 5%, with New Federal Tax Welfare to them, and subsidized exports of USA Jobs/Companies are Where we are now, Totally dependant on Borrowing massivelly from other Nations. All, Every Massive Problems we have are the Specific, direct result of the Last "Pro-Life" adminiistrtation radical reversal of traditional USA and Catholic Policies, attitudes.

• Other Nations Invested in the Future: Solar, Wind, Hydrogen Power. We had Zero incentives in the 2000's to even try to market Our Own Invented Technologies: Area Massive Solar generators invented in Califiornia 1980's Are being Built in Spain and Brazil, not the USA. China and Mercedes Benz Have Hydrogen Powwered (Water) Cars and Buses in the USA, Iceland and China, and for Export, as we focus on Disproven 1940's technology Battery Powered Cars/Trucks.

Germany, France, Europe are Significantly Wind and Solar, even Tidal powered electricity, to over 15% now, as we Begin those ideas. The Holy City is going Green. China, European Nations are Exporting massive Green Energy supplies We should have. China has new Self Developed Coal smoke "Cleaning" technology Exports we can buy, instead of Build, export.

• Another USA California Company Developed Major green Jet Fuel : Algea Oils, Massive volumes in short time, could Not get Financing 2 years ago to Build Major Production facilities in the USA and Britain to Fulfill a major British Airlines Contract to provide Algea Proven Ideal Jet Fuel (In the News last 2 years) so Had to sell out to Mega-Oil, Mega Profits Oil Company (Monopoly ownership of several Energies) which is spending big dollars they are "Researching/developing" Algea Fuel (False Advertising). The Navy and British, french Airlines are Using Algea derived oils Now. But Our Company coul Not get the Financing to Build Plants for it's Contracts.

Biggest Money, Biggest Wealth control our Economy and Energy Future, as well as the House.

• It is the 'pro-life' (Alleged) GOP bizarre Agenda of Enriching the Richest, Massive Deficits adminstration of 2001-2009 Which Created every single one of our Massive Economic, Financial Collapse, Very high Joblessnes, 4.5 new jobs Overseas Now for every New Job in the USA Now. Policies which were presented as ideal Now Proven Duirectly the Opposite, making the USA Future Ponziied on Other Nations for Our Government Operations, survival. We can barelly pay the interest Annually on ther National Debt without Borrowing. And we have to Buy Green Technology from Other Nations soon, while we refuse to now: Hydrogen Powered (Water extract) Cars, now Busses in Iceland of Mercedes Benz. Since the USA Big Business wants to Ignore Hydrogen Powered cars Now (As "Decades in the Future"), Mercedes is Switching to Hydrogen Powered Race Cars. Search MB Hydrogen Powered

The Allegations of Plenty of Oil Never say they are Oil Shale Rocks, which result in significant chemical poisons in area waters and air above and below ground. The Lord has given us the Brains to use to Develop New Business, Technology Fuels, and Start fighting Global warming; Even the Vatican is going 100% Green, Non-Polutting, with European Suppliers, because We don't offer them.

• The Job Growth in Texas mostly lowe-pay, because of the Big Oil Industry, Solar/Wind Farms, New Oil/Gas finds near Ft Worth where my Sister lives, and GW Bush initiated, Obama continued Major Federal Subsidies to Save Jobs like Teachers, Pollice.

I have friends in North Dakota, which has New CO2 Recycling for Use Industry, etc. (Green ideal Industry). Our Joke is whether traffic lights have been installed yet; "No, the traffic at 4 way stop signs argue who was there First."

[catmom50]

Originally Posted by AntalKalnoky

I'm a Fiscal Conservative Catholic; we still live under the Massive Financial/Credit Collapses of 10/87 and 2008; that was a Principal reason for the collapse of Evergreen. Also, our Nation, because of those 2 adminstrations focused on 50% Greater Military spending, with All the Resulting false wars. The Massive Tax cuts to the Most Profitable, Richest 5%, with New Federal Tax Welfare to them, and subsidized exports of USA Jobs/Companies are Where we are now, Totally dependant on Borrowing massivelly from other Nations. All, Every Massive Problems we have are the Specific, direct result of the Last "Pro-Life" adminiistrtation radical reversal of traditional USA and Catholic Policies, attitudes.

• Other Nations Invested in the Future: Solar, Wind, Hydrogen Power. We had Zero incentives in the 2000's to even try to market Our Own Invented Technologies: Area Massive Solar generators invented in Califiornia 1980's Are being Built in Spain and Brazil, not the USA. China and Mercedes Benz Have Hydrogen Powwered (Water) Cars and Buses in the USA, Iceland and China, and for Export, as we focus on Disproven 1940's technology Battery Powered Cars/Trucks.

Germany, France, Europe are Significantly Wind and Solar, even Tidal powered electricity, to over 15% now, as we Begin those ideas. The Holy City is going Green. China, European Nations are Exporting massive Green Energy supplies We should have. China has new Self Developed Coal smoke "Cleaning" technology Exports we can buy, instead of Build, export.

• Another USA California Company Developed Major green Jet Fuel : Algea Oils, Massive volumes in short time, could Not get Financing 2 years ago to Build Major Production facilities in the USA and Britain to Fulfill a major British Airlines Contract to provide Algea Proven Ideal Jet Fuel (In the News last 2 years) so Had to sell out to Mega-Oil, Mega Profits Oil Company (Monopoly ownership of several Energies) which is spending big dollars they are "Researching/developing" Algea Fuel (False Advertising). The Navy and British, french Airlines are Using Algea derived oils Now. But Our Company coul Not get the Financing to Build Plants for it's Contracts.

Biggest Money, Biggest Wealth control our Economy and Energy Future, as well as the House.

• It is the 'pro-life' (Alleged) GOP bizarre Agenda of Enriching the Richest, Massive Deficits adminstration of 2001-2009 Which Created every single one of our Massive Economic, Financial Collapse, Very high Joblessnes, 4.5 new jobs Overseas Now for every New Job in the USA Now. Policies which were presented as ideal Now Proven Duirectly the Opposite, making the USA Future Ponziied on Other Nations for Our Government Operations, survival. We can barelly pay the interest Annually on ther National Debt without Borrowing. And we have to Buy Green Technology from Other Nations soon, while we refuse to now: Hydrogen Powered (Water extract) Cars, now Busses in Iceland of Mercedes Benz. Since the USA Big Business wants to Ignore Hydrogen Powered cars Now (As "Decades in the Future"), Mercedes is Switching to Hydrogen Powered Race Cars. Search MB Hydrogen Powered

The Allegations of Plenty of Oil Never say they are Oil Shale Rocks, which result in significant chemical poisons in area waters and air above and below ground. The Lord has given us the Brains to use to Develop New Business, Technology Fuels, and Start fighting Global warming; Even the Vatican is going 100% Green, Non-Polutting, with European Suppliers, because We don't offer them.

• The Job Growth in Texas mostly lowe-pay, because of the Big Oil Industry, Solar/Wind Farms, New Oil/Gas finds near Ft Worth where my Sister lives, and GW Bush initiated, Obama continued Major Federal Subsidies to Save Jobs like Teachers, Pollice.

I have friends in North Dakota, which has New CO2 Recycling for Use Industry, etc. (Green ideal Industry). Our Joke is whether traffic lights have been installed yet; "No, the traffic at 4 way stop signs argue who was there First."

When I think of "green", I think of Al Gore and his goons.
Look at the fortress he lives in-- and he talks about being green. With folks like him and others in his mindset, it's do as I say not as I do.
They are a joke. I believe in protecting our environment also. But not when I am going to be taxed to death. My husband works hard for our modest living. We pay our fair share of taxes. Some don't even put enough into the system and yet thousands back . To me, that is income tax welfare.

and the CO2 recycling in ND, I don't see a problem with that. Though this is the first I've heard on it.