How do we report an abusive moderator through PM?

Julianah · #1 Nov 19, '11, 8:56 am

This moderator is making me think that CAF is a cult, which is why I asked the question about CAF accountability to the REAL Catholic Church. She told me to email my complaints, but I do not want to let CAF have any more personal information than I have already revealed (meaning I do not want to use my email account to mail directly).

So, I forwarded an initial PM she sent me to a "Forum Master", and then she smacked me down again for saying that I shouldn't be sharing with other "members". So who is the REAL leader of CAF? Anyone want to shine some light on this organization? Or are you guys really a cult, and one who misleads people about the REAL Catholic Church?

**JharekCarnelian** · #2 Nov 19, '11, 9:04 am

No CAF is not a cult, members with forum masters are not moderators. It's merely a title giving to posters who have been here for a long time and posted a lot during their membership. Although as an European and one of a left wing bent in many respects I often run up against differing views here I assure you the forum is not a cult and I've seen nothing that contradicts Catholic teaching in the several years I've been here.

Also complaing about mods and their decisions publically like this is a no-no and against the rules. Best to read the forums terms and conditions I think to get a better understanding fo the site.

Julianah · #3 Nov 19, '11, 9:38 am

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Originally Posted by JharekCarnelian

No CAF is not a cult, members with forum masters are not moderators. It's merely a title giving to posters who have been here for a long time and posted a lot during their membership. Although as an European and one of a left wing bent in many respects I often run up against differing views here I assure you the forum is not a cult and I've seen nothing that contradicts Catholic teaching in the several years I've been here.

Also complaing about mods and their decisions publically like this is a no-no and against the rules. Best to read the forums terms and conditions I think to get a better understanding fo the site.

Thanks for the clarification on the "Forum Master" thing. It's a confusing title, and it hurt people.

If CAF is not accountable to the REAL Catholic Church, then with the language of "just do as I say, and all will be well" is DEFINITELY suspect and the REAL Catholic leaders should know about it.

Anyway, I guess you don't know either how to report an abusive moderator through the PM system? Anyone know?

Leegal · #4 Nov 19, '11, 6:30 pm

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Originally Posted by JharekCarnelian

No CAF is not a cult, members with forum masters are not moderators. It's merely a title giving to posters who have been here for a long time and posted a lot during their membership. Although as an European and one of a left wing bent in many respects I often run up against differing views here I assure you the forum is not a cult and I've seen nothing that contradicts Catholic teaching in the several years I've been here.

Also complaing about mods and their decisions publically like this is a no-no and against the rules. Best to read the forums terms and conditions I think to get a better understanding fo the site.

Okay, but a "forum master" cannot be blocked. I know because I tried.

Corki · #5 Nov 19, '11, 6:48 pm

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Originally Posted by Leegal

Okay, but a "forum master" cannot be blocked. I know because I tried.

Might just be a glitch. I just blocked a "forum master" AND a "forum elder" and that's one level above "forum master". It worked just fine.

samiam1611 · #6 Nov 19, '11, 7:02 pm

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Originally Posted by Leegal

No, there's no cult. But there are a few misguided people. The one I am thinking of posts in a child like manner or as though someone new to the Church, or the post appears to be in direct opposition to faith, inflamatory or just plain doubtful that it's a real question. And it's a moderator or administrator so I cannot block this person.

Someone in authority needs to take another look at this. I used "contact us" and reported "moderator abuse", but received an e-mail back that I should report the abuse directly from the post, which I do not want to do since it really did not provide the option I need to explain what is wrong. Actually, that feature is more used for spamming and trolling, and I did not see anything I could choose that would fall under the category of "moderator abuse." In my original contact, I actually asked how someone like this actually became a moderator?

Don't let one moderator ruin the experience here. I have chosen to ignore the moderator's posts since I cannot block a moderator. If it's the same moderator, the person is misguided, has lost their way, or is just here to create nonsense. I still question if moderators are appointed based upon the number of posts or if their "work" is ever reviewed.

I am using restraint.

Are you confusing moderator with forum master? The mods barely say anything. They just say "thread closed" or "stay on topic." they don't say faith related things.
Moderators names are blue. Members names are black. What color is the name of the person who is bothering you?

Leegal · #7 Nov 19, '11, 7:12 pm

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Originally Posted by samiam1611

Are you confusing moderator with forum master? The mods barely say anything. They just say "thread closed" or "stay on topic." they don't say faith related things.
Moderators names are blue. Members names are black. What color is the name of the person who is bothering you?

Nope. It says "forum master" under the avatar -- and then the block is prohibited because the message is I cannot block this person because they are a moderator or administrator.

So, what's under the avatar is meaningless because he/she is a moderator or administrator, but it does not say so under the avatar. It says "forum master."

Leegal · #8 Nov 19, '11, 7:18 pm

The name is in black; it says Forum Master beneath.

I get a moderator or administrator message which denies me the ability to put a block.

"Sorry xxxxxxxxxxx is a moderator/admin and you are not allowed to ignore him or her."

Possibly this person was a mod or admin? And that status is no longer valid but somehow remains in some part of the system, which prevents me from ignoring her.

That's my thought now.

jwinch2 · #9 Nov 19, '11, 7:40 pm

Julianah,

Let me get this straight. You wish to file a complaint with the forum administrators, but you don't want to send an e-mail because you wish to stay anonymous? But you are fine with starting a public threat on that very same topic?

Well, I guess I will say what no one else seems to want to.

When you signed up, you were required to give your e-mail address and to verify that address by selecting a link they sent to that same address, before you could activate your membership. As such, sending an e-mail to notify the forum administrators of a problem with a moderator will not provide them with any additional information on your then you have already given them.

If you do not wish to do that it is your business. However, one thing you may keep in mind is that this is a privately run forum. As such, they are free to decide on their own rules for operation and are in fact, providing a free service to you. If you do not enjoy that service, or do not wish to play by the rules they have established, then no one is forcing you to stay. Its pretty simple really; their forum-their rules. Furthermore, your overreaction to a member who asked you to make room in your PM box so that she could try to help you is out of line and frankly, childish.

Having said that, I hope you do not leave as there are a ton of wonderful people here and the moderators for the most part do a good job. Yes there are one or two that are a bit off now and then, but they are human just like the rest of us and make mistakes from time to time.

Leegal · #10 Nov 19, '11, 7:41 pm

Solved, in a way. The person is a group leader. Group leaders cannot be blocked either, however you get the adm/moderator error message.

Thanks for the help; now we all know that Group Leaders cannot be blocked either.

jwinch2 · #11 Nov 19, '11, 7:44 pm

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Originally Posted by Leegal

Solved, in a way. The person is a group leader. Group leaders cannot be blocked either, however you get the adm/moderator error message.

Thanks for the help; now we all know that Group Leaders cannot be blocked either.

Good to know. I had not heard that before.

Peace,

**Trishie** · #12 Nov 19, '11, 9:02 pm

Dear Julianah,

It is regretful that you have felt some hurt.
A Forum Elder is someone who has been around a few years and has reached an appropriate number of posts, and hasn't got themselves banned for life. If you contacted a Forum Elder or Master you are contacting another member, not an administrator or moderator. This is why the person may have been puzzled and concerned and felt you were breaking the rules not to share private information or messages of others.

In the natural scheme of things, during the next two or three years I may join the Forum Elders and Masters, but that gives me no powers. If I make it to there, it will just mean I've tried to do my best here and nobody got too mad with me, or if they did they either forgave me or put me on 'ignore'.

"What are moderators and administrators? http://forums.catholic.com/faq.php?f...b3_mods_admins

"Moderators oversee specific forums. They generally have the ability to edit and delete posts, move threads, and perform other actions. Becoming a moderator for a specific forum is usually rewarded to users who are particularly helpful and knowledgeable in the subject of the forum they are moderating.

Administrators are the people who have overall control of everything that happens on the board. They oversee how the board is styled, what forums to create and how to organize them, what information to require from members and who to appoint as moderators."

Julianah, regarding email address. You could set up a separate email with Yahoo or Google for instance, as 'post Box' number as I regard it, so that you don't use your private email address, and change the address for CAF to the new one. Anything is traceable, but most people aren't going to try....and I do believe that our Moderators are very good people. They have my trust and respect.

**tbcrawford** · #13 Nov 20, '11, 8:17 am

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Originally Posted by Trishie

Dear Julianah,

It is regretful that you have felt some hurt.
A Forum Elder is someone who has been around a few years and has reached an appropriate number of posts, and hasn't got themselves banned for life. If you contacted a Forum Elder or Master you are contacting another member, not an administrator or moderator. This is why the person may have been puzzled and concerned and felt you were breaking the rules not to share private information or messages of others.

In the natural scheme of things, during the next two or three years I may join the Forum Elders and Masters, but that gives me no powers. If I make it to there, it will just mean I've tried to do my best here and nobody got too mad with me, or if they did they either forgave me or put me on 'ignore'.

"What are moderators and administrators? http://forums.catholic.com/faq.php?f...b3_mods_admins

"Moderators oversee specific forums. They generally have the ability to edit and delete posts, move threads, and perform other actions. Becoming a moderator for a specific forum is usually rewarded to users who are particularly helpful and knowledgeable in the subject of the forum they are moderating.

Administrators are the people who have overall control of everything that happens on the board. They oversee how the board is styled, what forums to create and how to organize them, what information to require from members and who to appoint as moderators."

Julianah, regarding email address. You could set up a separate email with Yahoo or Google for instance, as 'post Box' number as I regard it, so that you don't use your private email address, and change the address for CAF to the new one. Anything is traceable, but most people aren't going to try....and I do believe that our Moderators are very good people. They have my trust and respect.

Anathama Sit · #14 Nov 20, '11, 4:59 am

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Originally Posted by Leegal

Solved, in a way. The person is a group leader. Group leaders cannot be blocked either, however you get the adm/moderator error message.

Thanks for the help; now we all know that Group Leaders cannot be blocked either.

Greetings Leegal,

SO from this thread it is good to know that people who were formally Mods cannot be blocked and neither can Group Leaders. Does this go for all the Group Leaders of Social User created groups as well?

God Bless.
Anathama Sit

Leegal · #15 Nov 20, '11, 7:40 am

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Originally Posted by Anathama Sit

Greetings Leegal,

SO from this thread it is good to know that people who were formally Mods cannot be blocked and neither can Group Leaders. Does this go for all the Group Leaders of Social User created groups as well?

God Bless.
Anathama Sit

Not sure about former Mods; I thought that might be the case since I could not use the feature so I cannot say for sure, but someone suggested a "glitch" and I assumed that could have been the case.

However as to Group Leaders being unable to be blocked, I found that in the Help Section and then the "Help Forum." I do believe it refers to Leaders of Social Groups as well.