Forty days of prayer (for abortion)

markomalley · #1 Apr 11, '12, 2:23 am

Humboldt County Clergy for Choice and Six Rivers Planned Parenthood invite the public to join them in “40 Days of Prayer and Contemplation.”

Participants in the program set aside time with family and community to support women and reproductive justice for 40 days, from March 18 through April 27.

On day one, participants pray for women for whom pregnancy is not good news, that they know they have choices. On day nine, they pray for women who are afraid of their lovers. On day 11, they pray for better access to all forms of birth control; and on day 40, they give thanks and celebrate that abortion is still safe and legal.

They even have a brochure here.

Steven Ertelt had this on his site and I thought he went over the top. But it turns out he was correct.

I'm actually, in a way, glad to see this. It is proof positive that the 40 Days for Life campaigns are having an impact. After all, plagiarism is the highest form of flattery they tell me.

_Abyssinia · #2 Apr 11, '12, 3:01 am

Planned Parenthood are getting desperate; clinics are closing down all over the place, pro life state laws are having effect on lowering the abortion rate so Planned Parenthood are getting less business, many states are defunding Planned Parenthood; people are becoming more life. Planned Parenthood is fighting a losing battle.

You can not be pro abortion and Christian - the two are incompatible.

Murder is wrong: Gen. 9:6; Matthew 15:19;19:18; Mark 10:19; Luke 18:20; John 8:44; Acts 3:14; and Romans 1:28-29; 13:9.

Psalm 51:5 (David says,“Behold,I was brought forth in iniquity, And in sin my mother conceived me.” and Luke 1:44 (“For behold,when the sound of your greeting reached my ears,the baby leaped in my womb for joy.” Both describe the unborn using personal attributes.

Unborn described by using personal pronouns. Jeremiah 1:5 says,“Before I formed you in the womb I knew you, And before you were born I consecrated you; I have appointed you a prophet to the nations.”

Matthew 1:20-21 states, “But when he had considered this, behold, an angel of the Lord appeared to him in a dream,saying, ‘Joseph,son of David,do not be afraid to take Mary as your wife; for the Child who has been conceived in her is of the Holy Spirit. She will bear a Son; and you shall call His name Jesus, for He will save His people from their sins.’

Jesus was regarded as a person from conception. Matthew 1:20 says,“But when he had considered this, behold, an angel of the Lord appeared to him in a dream,saying, ‘Joseph,son of David,do not be afraid to take Mary as your wife;for the Child who has been conceived in her is of the Holy Spirit.’ The Angel tells Joseph: “the Child who has been conceived” is “of the Holy Spirit.'

The unborn are called children. Luke 1:41 states,“When Elizabeth heard Mary’s greeting, the baby leaped in her womb; and Elizabeth was filled with the Holy Spirit (1:44).”

The same punishment was applicable to someone who kills or injures the unborn as for one who kills or injured an adult, Exodus 21:22-23 states, “If men struggle with each other and strike a woman with child so that she gives birth prematurely,yet there is no injury, he shall surely be fined as the woman’s husband may demand of him, and he shall pay as the judges decide. But if there is any further injury, then you shall appoint as a penalty life for life . . . .”

Mosaic law viewed the unborn as persons worthy of the same rights as adults.

The unborn are called by God throughout birth. Similarly to Jeremiah 1:5, Isaiah 49:1 says ,“Listen to me, O islands, And pay attention,you peoples from afar, the LORD called me from the womb; from the body of my mother He named me.”

The Unborn are known by God as personally as any other person already born. Psalm 139:15-16 says, “My frame was not hidden from You, when I was made in secret, and skillfully wrought in the depths of the earth; Your eyes have seen my unformed substance; and in Your book were all written;the days that were ordained for me, when as yet there was not one of them.” Describing the prophet Jeremiah, Jeremiah 1:5 says, “Before I formed you in the womb I knew you,and before you were born I consecrated you; I have appointed you a prophet to the nations.”

markomalley · #3 Apr 11, '12, 3:38 am

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Originally Posted by _Abyssinia

You can not be pro abortion and Christian - the two are incompatible.

Book: Romney changed his mind on abortion based on polls

During his unsuccessful run against Sen. Ted Kennedy in 1994, Mitt Romney decided that he would run on a pro-choice platform after being advised that a pro-life candidate could not win in liberal Massachusetts.

The revelation comes from a new book, “Mitt Romney: An Inside Look at the Man and His Politics,” by journalist Ronald Scott. Journalist Byron York reported on Scott’s disclosure in an article published Friday in The Washington Examiner.

“According to Scott, Romney revealed that polling from Richard Wirthlin, Ronald Reagan’s former pollster whom Romney had hired for the ’94 campaign, showed it would be impossible for a pro-life candidate to win statewide office in Massachusetts,” York writes. “In light of that, Romney decided to run as a pro-choice candidate, pledging to support Roe v. Wade, while remaining personally pro-life.”

Mr. Romney in his own words

Gotta love it when we have a pro-abortion candidate versus a pro-abortion candidate.

_Abyssinia · #4 Apr 11, '12, 4:03 am

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Originally Posted by markomalley

Book: Romney changed his mind on abortion based on polls

During his unsuccessful run against Sen. Ted Kennedy in 1994, Mitt Romney decided that he would run on a pro-choice platform after being advised that a pro-life candidate could not win in liberal Massachusetts.

The revelation comes from a new book, “Mitt Romney: An Inside Look at the Man and His Politics,” by journalist Ronald Scott. Journalist Byron York reported on Scott’s disclosure in an article published Friday in The Washington Examiner.

“According to Scott, Romney revealed that polling from Richard Wirthlin, Ronald Reagan’s former pollster whom Romney had hired for the ’94 campaign, showed it would be impossible for a pro-life candidate to win statewide office in Massachusetts,” York writes. “In light of that, Romney decided to run as a pro-choice candidate, pledging to support Roe v. Wade, while remaining personally pro-life.”

Mr. Romney in his own words

Gotta love it when we have a pro-abortion candidate versus a pro-abortion candidate.

You are talking about something 18 years ago, if true.

What matters is Romney's record as governor. He had a strong pro life record and that is why Massachusetts pro life advocates, Massachusetts Citizens for Life President Anne Fox
and many pro life groups have defended Romney against attacks on his abortion record.

In the pro life movement we love converts - they energize and invigorate the movement.

This thread is going off topic, this is not about Mitt Romney.

It is disingenuous to compare Barack Obama's record and Mitt Romney's on abortion - they are not equal on this issue. Barack Obama has no pro life record - Mitt Romney does have pro life record.

GraceSofia · #5 Apr 11, '12, 8:24 am

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Originally Posted by markomalley

Steven Ertelt had this on his site and I thought he went over the top. But it turns out he was correct.

I first read the story there, and it gave me the chills. It is truly horrible. Made me think of this verse:

Woe to you that call evil good, and good evil: that put darkness for light, and light for darkness: that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter.

casey zia · #6 Apr 11, '12, 9:34 am

Fr. Z.'s blog also had an article: http://wdtprs.com/blog/2012/04/plann...-for-abortion/

From their pamphlet: “We are religious leaders who value all human life. We accept that religions differ about when life begins. We are here to help.” and "Humboldt County Clergy are available to talk with you about the spiritual aspects of choice."

Religious leaders!???! Unbelievable. "Spiritual aspects of choice"? Spare me.

Lots of discussion with teenagers around here!

_Abyssinia · #7 Apr 12, '12, 4:23 am

Funny look at Planned Parenthood's 40 days for prayer:

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/badcath...of-prayer.html

GraceSofia · #8 Apr 12, '12, 5:08 am

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Originally Posted by _Abyssinia

Funny look at Planned Parenthood's 40 days for prayer:

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/badcath...of-prayer.html

LOL

(One tiny complaint: they don't look that old and decrepit to ME. Um, how OLD is Bad Catholic?)

Tenofovir · #9 Apr 12, '12, 7:31 am

40 days fast for obesity. Or 40 days prayer for secularism.

TheRealJuliane · #10 Apr 12, '12, 7:45 am

Those who mock God will be punished. I would not want to be in these people's shoes when judgment comes...and it comes unexpectedly...

laircy · #11 Apr 13, '12, 6:58 pm

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LOL

(One tiny complaint: they don't look that old and decrepit to ME. Um, how OLD is Bad Catholic?)

Marc is 18

GraceSofia · #12 Apr 13, '12, 9:55 pm

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Marc is 18

Well, that explains it!

Wow. He is a good writer and thinker for someone so young.

He Man · #13 Apr 16, '12, 9:39 am

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Originally Posted by casey zia

Fr. Z.'s blog also had an article: http://wdtprs.com/blog/2012/04/plann...-for-abortion/

From their pamphlet: “We are religious leaders who value all human life. We accept that religions differ about when life begins. We are here to help.” and "Humboldt County Clergy are available to talk with you about the spiritual aspects of choice."

Religious leaders!???! Unbelievable. "Spiritual aspects of choice"? Spare me.

Lots of discussion with teenagers around here!

No one with a brain disagrees when life begins any more. I have plants that are alive in my window. That argument got thrown out years ago. The issue is whether that life has basic rights.

Nonetheless, I doubt they are serious. Not only does God not hear prayers for things that are morally wrong, people like this generally don't believe in the power of prayer to help their cause. I doubt Hitler prayed for a good day of rounding up and gassing. People who molest children don't say a quick Our Father before starting their efforts.

Just a stunt to show something. Not sure what that something is, but something.

What religion disagrees about what is alive? This is a rights issue, not a science issue.

Calgar · #14 Apr 13, '12, 6:25 pm

Hey, this thread made it onto an abortion sites news.

http://www.faithaloud.org/faith/faith-news.php

Sick website.

GraceSofia · #15 Apr 13, '12, 10:22 pm

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Hey, this thread made it onto an abortion sites news.

http://www.faithaloud.org/faith/faith-news.php

Sick website.

Yes, very sad. Here is an interview with the woman who started it.
The "theology" is indeed bizarre. Well, it's not really theology; it's just the spirit of the world: me, me me-- whatever I want, I must have. And they cloak it in religion to justify killing babies.

Clergy Group Supports Abortion

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and whether they choose abortion or choose to have a child, whatever their decision, that God’s love is always present for them

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Reporter: OK. Let’s see, I guess the only other question — you covered quite a bit of ground. What is your take on 40 days, the pro-life life ministry? They pray for preborn children’s lives to be saved. What’s your take on them?

Turner: I think it’s misguided, and I do think it’s a misuse of the Lentin time because it completely eliminates the woman. And it is the pregnant woman that we are concerned for. We have to treat her as a whole person, not just as the carrier of a fetus. So instead of praying for unborn children, you know, we’re praying for those women, and we’re praying that they find within their own faith a strength, and that they don’t make decisions out of shame, that they don’t feel shame that’s imposed upon them by anybody else, whether it be family members or religious authorities or whatever, but instead to look to their own faith for strength and confidence, and to do what’s best for themselves.

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I think that right has to be left with her alone, and I think that right comes from God.