China hits back on U.S. human rights

TheTrueCentrist · #1 May 28, '12, 1:48 pm

http://edition.cnn.com/2012/05/25/wo...-human-rights/

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Beijing, China (CNN) -- China criticized a "woeful" human rights record in the United States on Friday, a day after a U.S. report said Beijing's own record is getting worse, with harsh crackdowns on dissidents.

"The United States' tarnished human rights record has left it in no state -- whether on a moral, political or legal basis -- to act as the world's 'human rights justice,' " China said in an annual report on U.S. human rights.

TheTrueCentrist · #2 May 28, '12, 1:57 pm

Full text here:

http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/cndy/20...t_15392452.htm

andremiguel · #3 May 28, '12, 2:54 pm

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Originally Posted by TheTrueCentrist

http://edition.cnn.com/2012/05/25/wo...-human-rights/

The abhorrent US slave trade cannot be compared with the hundreds of millions of Chinese killed by the communist regimen in only 40 years.

empacae · #4 May 28, '12, 2:58 pm

Oh boy! Now that's rich.

George Stegmeir · #5 May 28, '12, 4:59 pm

Unfortunately, they are reminding us that : "He who pays the bills, calls the shots.....and NEVER FORGET IT!"

SaintPatrick333 · #6 May 28, '12, 5:15 pm

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Originally Posted by andremiguel

The abhorrent US slave trade cannot be compared with the hundreds of millions of Chinese killed by the communist regimen in only 40 years.

but what of the tens of millions of innocent babies slaughtered every year in the womb? America is just as much of a tyrant as any other country. Our actions making war in the name of "peace" throughout the middle east is proof enough. Like the "WMD's" in Iraq lol

curlycool89 · #7 May 29, '12, 10:35 am

And that is why I call this the China defense fallacy. Pointing at someone else's wrongs doesn't make your actions any less wrong.

scipio337 · #8 May 31, '12, 4:55 am

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Originally Posted by curlycool89

And that is why I call this the China defense fallacy. Pointing at someone else's wrongs doesn't make your actions any less wrong.

It's called a "tu quoque fallacy".

China's grievances:

1) "The United States prioritizes the right to keep and bear arms over the protection of citizens' lives and personal security and exercises lax firearm possession control, causing rampant gun ownership"

LOL. What do you call a free man unable to own weapons? A slave.

2) #OWS arrests.

Hmmm, is it any surprise that the world's larges Communist regime sympathizes with orgainizations with communist goals?

curlycool89 · #9 May 31, '12, 10:02 am

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Originally Posted by scipio337

It's called a "tu quoque fallacy".

Darn, and here I thought I had invented something.

Well, at least I know what to call it now (but I do still like "China defense fallacy").

JimR-OCDS · #10 May 31, '12, 12:21 pm

Heck, all the Chinese government has to do is point at the USA's use of torture at GITMO, and the CIA sending prisoners to "Black Sites," where more aggressive torture is used.

Thanks to the Bush years as president, the USA has lost all moral credibility when it comes to human rights.

Jim

andremiguel · #11 Jun 2, '12, 1:06 am

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Originally Posted by JimR-OCDS

Heck, all the Chinese government has to do is point at the USA's use of torture at GITMO, and the CIA sending prisoners to "Black Sites," where more aggressive torture is used.

Thanks to the Bush years as president, the USA has lost all moral credibility when it comes to human rights.

Jim

I am not American but tell you, in human rights, China cannot point at NO one in the world.

kelvinf · #12 Jun 2, '12, 3:52 pm

When it comes to human rights per country, I prefer the reports from independent bodies like Amnesty International that covers all countries.

andremiguel · #13 Jun 3, '12, 2:06 pm

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Originally Posted by kelvinf

When it comes to human rights per country, I prefer the reports from independent bodies like Amnesty International that covers all countries.

For China, you do not need that.
It is so blatant that even a blind person sees it clearly.

**Holly3278** · #14 Jun 3, '12, 4:11 pm

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Originally Posted by JimR-OCDS

Heck, all the Chinese government has to do is point at the USA's use of torture at GITMO, and the CIA sending prisoners to "Black Sites," where more aggressive torture is used.

Thanks to the Bush years as president, the USA has lost all moral credibility when it comes to human rights.

Jim

Well its not like Obama is any better. I mean, Obama only supports the wholesale slaughter of unborn children. Not to mention the fact that he is attacking our religious freedom with the HHS mandate.

JimR-OCDS · #15 Jun 3, '12, 4:44 pm

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Originally Posted by Holly3278

Well its not like Obama is any better. I mean, Obama only supports the wholesale slaughter of unborn children. Not to mention the fact that he is attacking our religious freedom with the HHS mandate.

Well, most of the world, including the USA, support abortion and contraception, so China wouldn't be pointing at that as an issue.

However, the use of torture approved by the Bush administration, makes our call for China to stop abusing it's people, empty rhetoric.

Jim