Copyright Alert System

**edwest2** · #1 Jun 3, '12, 10:50 am

http://www.copyrightinformation.org/alerts

"Internet Service Providers Close to Implementing System to Punish Piracy
Internet providers, along with content creators, will roll out a system that guards against illegal BitTorrent downloads as early as July 1"

"By Jason Koebler
April 4, 2012 RSS Feed Print

"Content creators and Internet service providers took another step towards preventing online piracy Monday by naming the head of an agency that will help develop a "graduated" set of punitive measures for suspected online pirates.

"The move to tap Jill Lesser as head of the Center for Copyright Information (CCI), which will develop the guidelines, suggests that ISPs are quickly advancing towards launching a system that guards against illegal downloads. The system is slated to start in early July.

"The challenge is to strike a balance between the two core notions of copyright protection and the First Amendment," Lesser wrote. It's already clear which side she's on: "While laws that protect intellectual property remain strong and enforcement efforts continue, technology has tipped the balance away from the interests of most creators and artists."

"The ease of distribution of copyrighted content has helped create a generation of people who believe that all content should be free. The notion that artists and creators, and even the big companies that finance, produce and deliver their creations, don't have the right to own and control their distribution, simply cannot be."

So, if I create something, I should own it and decide how I will be compensated and how it will be distributed. People should not be able to take it for nothing.

Peace,
Ed

sedonaman · #2 Jun 3, '12, 12:20 pm

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Originally Posted by edwest2

...So, if I create something, I should own it and decide how I will be compensated and how it will be distributed. People should not be able to take it for nothing.

Peace,
Ed

Right. And once you are wealthy enough from selling it, you can contribute to a political party that has established a reputation for taking other people's money and spending it on your favorite causes.

**edwest2** · #3 Jun 3, '12, 6:01 pm

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Originally Posted by sedonaman

Right. And once you are wealthy enough from selling it, you can contribute to a political party that has established a reputation for taking other people's money and spending it on your favorite causes.

Wha... What? I have no political party affiliations. None. Do you not vote for your favorite causes?

Peace,
Ed

**adrift** · #4 Jun 3, '12, 6:16 pm

People should get paid for their property.

The one that gets me though is a copyright is assumed for a photograph shot 75 years ago of your relative. You would like to have a copy of great granddad to share with the rest of the family but do not take it to Wal-Mart without a release. How do you get a release from a company that has been out of business for fifty years by and unknown photographer?

sedonaman · #5 Jun 4, '12, 5:22 am

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Originally Posted by adrift

People should get paid for their property.

The one that gets me though is a copyright is assumed for a photograph shot 75 years ago of your relative. You would like to have a copy of great granddad to share with the rest of the family but do not take it to Wal-Mart without a release. How do you get a release from a company that has been out of business for fifty years by and unknown photographer?

They must have gotten sued for copying a photo taken by a professional. As a result, the word came down: "No copying any photos without a release. Period."

**adrift** · #6 Jun 4, '12, 8:06 am

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Originally Posted by sedonaman

They must have gotten sued for copying a photo taken by a professional. As a result, the word came down: "No copying any photos without a release. Period."

Your right. They will copy it if the photo is 100 yrs

kelvinf · #7 Jun 4, '12, 8:16 am

It will be interesting to see what they come up with this time around. If it's same old stuff, I don't anything changing.

Cristiano · #8 Jun 4, '12, 8:27 am

Copyright laws exist and thus they should be respected; however, I do not see anyone up in arms in relation to the methods that are used to enforce such laws. It is quite obvious that RIAA has the approach that the ends justify the means, and the methods that they use often are at least immoral if not illegal (e.g. the investigations done by MediaSentry without a license).

**edwest2** · #9 Jun 4, '12, 9:48 am

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Originally Posted by Cristiano

Copyright laws exist and thus they should be respected; however, I do not see anyone up in arms in relation to the methods that are used to enforce such laws. It is quite obvious that RIAA has the approach that the ends justify the means, and the methods that they use often are at least immoral if not illegal (e.g. the investigations done by MediaSentry without a license).

For those of us who are unfamiliar, could you provide a link or some background info?

Peace,
Ed

Cristiano · #10 Jun 4, '12, 9:51 am

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Originally Posted by edwest2

For those of us who are unfamiliar, could you provide a link or some background info?

Peace,
Ed

This are the first two I could get to. http://www.p2pnet.net/story/15225 http://recordingindustryvspeople.blo...-michigan.html. A detailed search will give you more information.

**Holly3278** · #11 Jun 5, '12, 3:55 pm

I am definitely against copyright infringement and piracy. However, I have a problem with this. The main problem I have is that in order for this to work, ISPs will essentially have to monitor everyone's internet activity. If not, how else will they detect the piracy and illegal downloads? The reason I have a problem with this is because it seems to be a major invasion of privacy.

sedonaman · #12 Jun 4, '12, 8:53 am

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Originally Posted by adrift

Your right. They will copy it if the photo is 100 yrs

Doesn't copyright protection extend to 75 years beyond the life of the author? Perhaps someone can shed some light?

**edwest2** · #13 Jun 4, '12, 9:46 am

From the U.S. Copyright Office.

http://www.copyright.gov/help/faq/fa....html#duration

Peace,
Ed

curlycool89 · #14 Jun 4, '12, 10:12 am

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Originally Posted by sedonaman

Doesn't copyright protection extend to 75 years beyond the life of the author? Perhaps someone can shed some light?

Yes, because copyright is meant to be a cash cow for people to be able to make money off some old thing for at least 100 years.

Oh wait, silly me. Copyright (and patents for that matter) was a system invented to encourage creativity by giving people a monopoly on their product for a short time. How far we've drifted from that.

I see that the M.A.F.I.A. is involved in this too. I wonder when they'll finally move into the 21st century? Or maybe they can just reinvent themselves as "artistic traditionalists" to try and gain some sympathy?

**edwest2** · #15 Jun 4, '12, 4:34 pm

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Originally Posted by curlycool89

Yes, because copyright is meant to be a cash cow for people to be able to make money off some old thing for at least 100 years.

Oh wait, silly me. Copyright (and patents for that matter) was a system invented to encourage creativity by giving people a monopoly on their product for a short time. How far we've drifted from that.

I see that the M.A.F.I.A. is involved in this too. I wonder when they'll finally move into the 21st century? Or maybe they can just reinvent themselves as "artistic traditionalists" to try and gain some sympathy?

Then go and create your own Star Wars. Why hope that it'll enter the public domain in the next 5 years so you can milk that cash cow? Yeah, and they're still making money off of old films - so what?

I've helped create worlds for a number of years. Get an idea, present it well and people will buy it. I'm sick and tired of the whining. The date on the calendar has nothing to do with it. You know, and I know, that you can create what you want, put it online and, heck, charge nothing for it. Let everybody use it however they want. No copyright - nothing. Then when some big movie studio makes a half billion dollars off it - no worries.

Creativity is a learned skill, but all I'm hearing is - it's too hard. Just let me milk the other guy's cow who did all the hard work. Yep, Bob's Star Wars action figures, that were not even designed by Bob but by some artist fresh out of school.

Creativity is a lot like bodybuilding - as your creative muscles develop, you get more and more ideas. I know that creativity is not helped by you taking the other guy's complete works and writing your own version or tacking on some idea you had. There's a learning curve involved and the 21st Century has nothing to do with it.

Peace,
Ed