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Old Oct 29, '13, 9:57 pm
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Good day friends, I just wanna ask what is the difference between the carmelites who wear white veils and black veils? And are they monks too?
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Good day friends, I just wanna ask what is the difference between the carmelites who wear white veils and black veils? And are they monks too?
First off, Discalced Carmelites who wear veils are, from my discernment/understanding, nuns, not monks. The difference between the two is the white one means she is either in the Novitiate, or she is a First Professed, also sometimes called Temporarily Professed, nun. She will only receive the black veil if she makes the final, or solemn vows of living the rest of her life in Poverty, Chastity, and Obedience.
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Just thought I'd add a point of reference. There is no such thing as a Carmelite monk. The Carmelite order, as far as the men are concerned, have never been cloistered. (Which is why the monastery in Wyoming is not a formal part of the Carmelite order.)
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Just thought I'd add a point of reference. There is no such thing as a Carmelite monk. The Carmelite order, as far as the men are concerned, have never been cloistered. (Which is why the monastery in Wyoming is not a formal part of the Carmelite order.)
thanks for answering i always thought that those people who are not allowed to go outside and who stays inside the monastery are monks. Now what's the difference between monks and contemplatives? (Sorry for asking too much i just wanted to know more)
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Old Oct 30, '13, 8:36 pm
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I would reccommend you go directly to their website if you want correct information.

http://www.carmelites.net/vocations/the-carmelite-life/
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HI I am new to this forum. I happen to be a Descalced Carmelite Secular and wanted to know if anyone who are or who might think of becoming a Descalced Carmelite start a discussion about our spirituality to help us grow ever stronger in our Catholic faith as wellas in the journey in seeking God through Carml spirituality. Any thoughs about this? Thanks.
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thanks for answering i always thought that those people who are not allowed to go outside and who stays inside the monastery are monks. Now what's the difference between monks and contemplatives? (Sorry for asking too much i just wanted to know more)
No worries for asking, that's what CAF's here for! Most monks are contemplatives.

Friars can be referred to as semi-contemplative. Take male Carmelites. They have an active component to their ministry as while as a contemplative portion.

Groups like Trappists are contemplative. Benedictines are contemplative (although some monasteries might function more like semi-contemplatives.)
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HI I am new to this forum. I happen to be a Descalced Carmelite Secular and wanted to know if anyone who are or who might think of becoming a Descalced Carmelite start a discussion about our spirituality to help us grow ever stronger in our Catholic faith as wellas in the journey in seeking God through Carml spirituality. Any thoughs about this? Thanks.
I'm planning of becoming a carmelite someday but i'm still not sure whether God is really calling me for this. I'am a bit confused actually.
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To Peaceforhonks: your poat #8, I think you will want to pray for discernment it does take some time to decide if God is really calling you to be a Carmelite, though I think you are praying to God it see if that is God's will for you. I would like to suggest that if you can to talk to any Carmelite priests if you know any. if you do not know any in your area you might look them up on-line- www.ocd.pen.net or www.OCD4OCDS blogspot.com or www.ocds.info. I hope this helps you. May God bless you always. I will try to help you as needed ifyou like in better understanding what is Carmel spirituality and what it means to be a Carmelite. There is plenty of info out tere as you most likely already know so keep learning.
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