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Old Dec 17, '05, 11:52 am
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Default !st cousin, 2nd cousin, etc. How to tell?

I have cousins who are my mother's sister's (my aunt) children. Are they my 1st cousins and their children my 2nd cousins? Who can tell? How does this all work?

Please provide some proof for your answers.

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Here is something from Our Ancestry:
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Cousin (a.k.a "first cousin")
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Your first cousins are the people in your family who have two of the same grandparents as you. In other words, they are the children of your aunts and uncles.

Second Cousin
Your second cousins are the people in your family who have the same great-grandparents as you., but not the same grandparents.

Third, Fourth, and Fifth Cousins
Your third cousins have the same great-great-grandparents, fourth cousins have the same great-great-great-grandparents, and so on.

Removed
When the word "removed" is used to describe a relationship, it indicates that the two people are from different generations. You and your first cousins are in the same generation (two generations younger than your grandparents), so the word "removed" is not used to describe your relationship.

The words "once removed" mean that there is a difference of one generation. For example, your mother's first cousin is your first cousin, once removed. This is because your mother's first cousin is one generation younger than your grandparents and you are two generations younger than your grandparents. This one-generation difference equals "once removed."

Twice removed means that there is a two-generation difference. You are two generations younger than a first cousin of your grandmother, so you and your grandmother's first cousin are first cousins, twice removed.
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The link also has a chart to explain it.

BTW: I see you are in Bensalem. Do you go to St. Charles there?

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Old Dec 17, '05, 12:50 pm
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I don't understand why we remove them...most of them are nice enough to let them stick around....

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Default Re: !st cousin, 2nd cousin, etc. How to tell?

This does get quite confusing especially in a big family. My Mom comes from a family of 11 kids, (My Aunt's & Uncles). I have 36 first cousins, and 27 second cousins, and from there who knows how many cousins I have, that have been removed one, twice, and three times.

One of my cousin' s keeps a record of all this. My Aunt Sue started this years ago but is now to old to keep up with it anymore. This is a great topic of conversations every year at our family reunions.

My Aunt always seemed to manage to drag a unknown cousin out of the woodwork so to speak, and has brought them to our family reunions. We never know who is going to show up. My Grandfather had two brothers also, and we have found cousins form those sides of the family as well.. Now that really gets confusing.

It's Like, "You are who?......and you are related to me how...........and how many times are you removed?.......and on and on. it goes. I have realatives over in Europe, in Slovakia, that I don't know, but my Aunt has kept in touch with them over the years.

Ancestry can be fun and interesting, but also very complicated.


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Old Dec 17, '05, 3:18 pm
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[color=black]BTW: I see you are in Bensalem. Do you go to St. Charles there?

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I got to OLF (Our Lady of Fatima) The fellow who takes care of maintance wants me to repair the church where the storm drain pipe was installed. I also replace windows in the convent and the counter top in the rectory. Yes, I am familar with St Charles Borromeo.
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Default Re: !st cousin, 2nd cousin, etc. How to tell?

You know what makes it evern MORE confusing....
I know almost ALL my Great Great Grandparents in finding the data on them here in the U.S.

NOW, to find their parents will be interesting.
Then what's to say that I could find brothers and sisters to all my G-G-grandfather's and G-G-grandmothers?! You know what THAT means....MORE Cousins!
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I got to OLF (Our Lady of Fatima) The fellow who takes care of maintance wants me to repair the church where the storm drain pipe was installed. I also replace windows in the convent and the counter top in the rectory. Yes, I am familar with St Charles Borromeo.
I was just wondering. Fr. Lea at St. Charles was a seminarian assigned to the parish (MMR in North Wales) I was a member of. We really put him through the paces when he was there. I attended both his ordination as a Deacon and as a Priest.

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I can do you all one better...(Take a deep breath).

My Daddy & one of his brothers married first cousins. This made my father & my uncle first cousins by marriage. It also made my uncle on my father's side, my first cousin (once removed) by marriage. And it made my first cousin (once removed) on my mother's side to be my aunt.
So all my 1st cousins on that side of the family are also my 2nd cousins on the other side.
Then, when my parents were killed, my godmother adopted me, & I acquired a whole third set of cousins of various degrees. Now, my godmother's grandfather died young & his widow (w/one child, Mama's dad) remarried a widower. They had a son.
But that branch of that family has largely died out...So I was invited to the last family reunion to represent the family of John (godmother's stepgrandfather). I was there a few minutes & in came my second cousin once removed on my (birth) mother's side; we looked at each other, & both demanded, "What are you doing here?"...
It turns out that his mother (We are related by his father being my mother's 1st cousin) is descended from William (John's uncle), & he is the closest surviving relative of that branch of the family....So we are figuring this out, & his fiancee (who had come as his guest) had wandered off & was looking at the various family trees, & she called us over...."Look," she goes, "you see that woman there?" ( The wife of another brother to William & to John's father). "That's my great aunt!"
All 3 of us ended up having our pictures taken for the family history...I resisted the temptation to join in a rousing chorus of "I'm My Own Grandpaw", but, it wasn't easy!!

Any more questions about degrees of cousins will be answered for a modest yearly donation to the charity of my choice...
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I was just wondering. Fr. Lea at St. Charles was a seminarian assigned to the parish (MMR in North Wales) I was a member of. We really put him through the paces when he was there. I attended both his ordination as a Deacon and as a Priest.

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Is he still at St Charles? If so, I'll send him your regards.
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I can do you all one better...(Take a deep breath)
I think I am beginning to understand.
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Is he still at St Charles? If so, I'll send him your regards.
Probabaly is. He was ordained in 2004.

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