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Old Feb 26, '08, 7:25 pm
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That's suprising. I would have thought the Mormons are growing much faster than the JW's. Besides, I see Mormon missionaries out and about at least once a week while I have never been visited by a JW nor seen them going door-to-door.
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And now, the BAD news for the Jehovah's Witnesses:

"An even more extreme example of what might be called "masked churn" is the relatively tiny Jehovah's Witnesses, with a turnover rate of about two-thirds. That means that two-thirds of the people who told Pew they were raised Jehovah's Witnesses no longer are - yet the group attracts roughly the same number of converts. Notes Lugo, "No wonder they have to keep on knocking on doors.""

This comes from the new Pew Forum study on American religion and the related article from Time.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/time/2008022...ithfulfaithful

http://religions.pewforum.org/

This is truly a staggering figure. What does it say when 2/3 of your parishoners permanently drop out of your religion at some point in their life?
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Dying because of beliefs in one's religion isn't necessarily a bad thing is it?
If your beliefs turn out not to be true you've given your life for nothing.

The prohibition on blood transfusions was not taught by Jesus Christ who in fact said that none of the Old Testament dietary laws applied to Christians.
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If your beliefs turn out not to be true you've given your life for nothing.

The prohibition on blood transfusions was not taught by Jesus Christ who in fact said that none of the Old Testament dietary laws applied to Christians.
You're right of course. I was merely pointing out that dying for one's religion in principle isn't always a bad thing (St Peter for example).

I think much of this comes down to faith, faith that yours is the true religion: there but for the grace of God go I (I might have been a Jehovah's Witness if I was born into such a community).
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Old Feb 28, '08, 5:51 pm
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A couple of points for those who want to compare "apples to apples"...

JW's don't practice infant baptism, so those born into JW families aren't counted as "members" in any statistics... While other religions may count baptised infants as "members", JW's don't.

In order to be counted as a "member", a person would have to go through a thorough Bible training program, get baptised, and be regularly active in the preaching ministry. A person who doesn't regularly participate in the preaching work would not be counted in any statistical number.

The quote mentioned "those raised as JW's who no longer are". Please don't misinterpret this. This doesn't mean they ever were JW's. Being born into a JW family doesn't make you a JW... (unlike other religions). A typical child wouldn't become a JW ( by becoming baptised and active in the ministry) until their mid-teens. There are certainly a number of teens that choose not to become active in the preaching work or choose to live a moral life based on Bible principles, so they would not be statistically counted.

Lastly, Jehovah's Witnesses adhere to a strict interpretation of Bible morality. Because of this, each year 40,000+ of the 6,500,000+ active members are removed from the congregation and are also not statistically counted.

In summary, if Jehovah's Witnesses were like other religions who:

1) count baptised infants as members
2) don't require any specific activity to be counted as a member
3) didn't expel non-repentant practicers of immorality

the numbers would certainly be much higher.

Here's a inside look at Jehovah's Witnesses world-wide preaching activity that has contributed to us being the fast growing religion:

Part 1, Part 2, Part 3, Part 4, Part 5, Part 6
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