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Old Dec 10, '08, 12:30 pm
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Default Re: Moscow's mayor links gays to spread of AIDS

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HIV is primarily a heterosexual disease.
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and it just so happens that HIV occurs mostly in homosexuals...

or you might say that both has HIV but homosexuals transmit it much faster
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Old Dec 10, '08, 12:43 pm
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and it just so happens that HIV occurs mostly in homosexuals...
In the United States and Europe, yes, but not world-wide. But of the 33 million persons infected with HIV worldwide most are heterosexual.

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or you might say that both has HIV but homosexuals transmit it much faster
HIV transmits more easily if tissue is broken. One of the reasons heterosexual AIDS predominates in the third world is because of the higher rate of ulcerative STDs. This also happens in anal sex, whether the person is gay or straight. It should be noted, however, that more than half of gay people do not engage in anal sex.
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Old Dec 10, '08, 12:50 pm
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In the United States and Europe, yes, but not world-wide. But of the 33 million persons infected with HIV worldwide most are heterosexual.


HIV transmits more easily if tissue is broken. One of the reasons heterosexual AIDS predominates in the third world is because of the higher rate of ulcerative STDs. This also happens in anal sex, whether the person is gay or straight. It should be noted, however, that more than half of gay people do not engage in anal sex.
Isn't 3rd world against homosexuality? They don't practice it as much as in the U.S and Europe

you have to consider ALL things being equal.

forget the numbers

go by the nature of the sexual act
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Old Dec 10, '08, 12:53 pm
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Right

and it just so happens that HIV occurs mostly in homosexuals...

or you might say that both has HIV but homosexuals transmit it much faster
The HIV rate among lesbians is the lowest for any group in the world.
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Old Dec 10, '08, 12:56 pm
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The HIV rate among lesbians is the lowest for any group in the world.
i hope so !

I don't see how they can imitate homosex or heterosex act, do you?
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Old Dec 10, '08, 2:18 pm
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I don't see how they can imitate homosex or heterosex act, do you?
Ah, you're toying with us, aren't ya? Lesbian sex is "homosex" activity.

But to get back on topic, the mayor of Moscow wants to ban gay speech and the freedom of gays to associate with one another. He tries to justify his repression of civil liberties by using HIV as an excuse. But simply being gay or lesbian doesn't mean you are going to get or transmit HIV. What transmits HIV are some very specific practices such as anal sex or (especially for Russia and countries of the former Soviet bloc) IV drug abuse. If the mayor truly wanted to reduce HIV transmission he would create programs which reduce risk.
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Old Dec 10, '08, 8:25 pm
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In the United States and Europe, yes, but not world-wide. But of the 33 million persons infected with HIV worldwide most are heterosexual.


HIV transmits more easily if tissue is broken. One of the reasons heterosexual AIDS predominates in the third world is because of the higher rate of ulcerative STDs. This also happens in anal sex, whether the person is gay or straight. It should be noted, however, that more than half of gay people do not engage in anal sex.
Many in the third world are bi-sexual. This is how HIV is spread mostly to the women by the men in their lives.
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Old Dec 11, '08, 8:04 am
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Many in the third world are bi-sexual. This is how HIV is spread mostly to the women by the men in their lives.
I've never heard that claim before. Would you happen to have a link to support it?
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Old Dec 11, '08, 10:01 am
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But simply being gay or lesbian doesn't mean you are going to get or transmit HIV.
You mean chasity can really happens among the majority of gay and lesbian ??
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Old Dec 11, '08, 10:44 am
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You mean chasity can really happens among the majority of gay and lesbian ??
I never made that claim.
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Old Dec 11, '08, 11:17 am
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I've never heard that claim before. Would you happen to have a link to support it?
One of the things that Africa has been doing about the HIV/AIDS situation there is to strongly support relationships between a husband and wife only. You can search up the links my computer filters because of the kids.
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Old Dec 11, '08, 12:46 pm
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Fact: Gays spread AIDS to each other
Fact: Heterosexual woman get AIDS from bi-sexual men
Fact: AIDS was spread by homosexuality
Conclusion: It's all their fault

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But to get back on topic, the mayor of Moscow wants to ban gay speech and the freedom of gays to associate with one another. He tries to justify his repression of civil liberties by using HIV as an excuse. But simply being gay or lesbian doesn't mean you are going to get or transmit HIV. What transmits HIV are some very specific practices such as anal sex or (especially for Russia and countries of the former Soviet bloc) IV drug abuse. If the mayor truly wanted to reduce HIV transmission he would create programs which reduce risk.
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Old Dec 11, '08, 12:48 pm
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Fact: Gays spread AIDS to each other
Fact: Heterosexual woman get AIDS from bi-sexual men
Fact: AIDS was spread by homosexuality
Conclusion: It's all their fault
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Old Dec 11, '08, 1:27 pm
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Wow, it sounds like you've been fed some real propaganda by the militant homosexuals.

They don't care if their disinformation makes people die, as long as it suits their agenda of forcing all of us to recognize their unions as valid.

And gay sex between two males is much much MUCH more likely to transmit AIDS than normal sex.
Keep 'em comming! Your flamming attraction to distortion regarding gays is rather hilarious!! It's comments like this that actually help the cause for equality, seperating fact from fiction and from just plain nonsense.
When it comes to sexually transmitting AIDS, the culprit is .......(drum roll please) PROMISCUITY!!
You can't CREATE AIDS by putting two men together. And two men who don't have AIDS can't transmit it. In fact, just for the sake of argument, unlike a hetrosexual couple, the only ones that can't sexually transmit AIDS is the female homosexual couple.
But because of comments like yours, Neil, you make yourself and others like you a tangible poster child for distorted, discriminatory hysteria. Thanks for giving bias a face!
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Old Dec 11, '08, 1:39 pm
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Default Re: Moscow's mayor links gays to spread of AIDS

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One of the things that Africa has been doing about the HIV/AIDS situation there is to strongly support relationships between a husband and wife only. You can search up the links my computer filters because of the kids.
This is not proof at all. Do you have actual proof to back up the claim, or not?
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