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Dec 10, '08, 12:30 pm
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Re: Moscow's mayor links gays to spread of AIDS
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Originally Posted by Dale_M
HIV is primarily a heterosexual disease.
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and it just so happens that HIV occurs mostly in homosexuals...
or you might say that both has HIV but homosexuals transmit it much faster
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Dec 10, '08, 12:43 pm
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Re: Moscow's mayor links gays to spread of AIDS
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and it just so happens that HIV occurs mostly in homosexuals...
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In the United States and Europe, yes, but not world-wide. But of the 33 million persons infected with HIV worldwide most are heterosexual.
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or you might say that both has HIV but homosexuals transmit it much faster
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HIV transmits more easily if tissue is broken. One of the reasons heterosexual AIDS predominates in the third world is because of the higher rate of ulcerative STDs. This also happens in anal sex, whether the person is gay or straight. It should be noted, however, that more than half of gay people do not engage in anal sex.
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Dec 10, '08, 12:50 pm
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Re: Moscow's mayor links gays to spread of AIDS
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In the United States and Europe, yes, but not world-wide. But of the 33 million persons infected with HIV worldwide most are heterosexual.
HIV transmits more easily if tissue is broken. One of the reasons heterosexual AIDS predominates in the third world is because of the higher rate of ulcerative STDs. This also happens in anal sex, whether the person is gay or straight. It should be noted, however, that more than half of gay people do not engage in anal sex.
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Isn't 3rd world against homosexuality? They don't practice it as much as in the U.S and Europe
you have to consider ALL things being equal.
forget the numbers
go by the nature of the sexual act
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Dec 10, '08, 12:53 pm
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Re: Moscow's mayor links gays to spread of AIDS
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and it just so happens that HIV occurs mostly in homosexuals...
or you might say that both has HIV but homosexuals transmit it much faster
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The HIV rate among lesbians is the lowest for any group in the world.
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Dec 10, '08, 12:56 pm
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Re: Moscow's mayor links gays to spread of AIDS
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The HIV rate among lesbians is the lowest for any group in the world.
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i hope so !
I don't see how they can imitate homosex or heterosex act, do you?
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Dec 10, '08, 2:18 pm
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Re: Moscow's mayor links gays to spread of AIDS
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I don't see how they can imitate homosex or heterosex act, do you?
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Ah, you're toying with us, aren't ya? Lesbian sex is "homosex" activity.
But to get back on topic, the mayor of Moscow wants to ban gay speech and the freedom of gays to associate with one another. He tries to justify his repression of civil liberties by using HIV as an excuse. But simply being gay or lesbian doesn't mean you are going to get or transmit HIV. What transmits HIV are some very specific practices such as anal sex or (especially for Russia and countries of the former Soviet bloc) IV drug abuse. If the mayor truly wanted to reduce HIV transmission he would create programs which reduce risk.
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Dec 10, '08, 8:25 pm
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Re: Moscow's mayor links gays to spread of AIDS
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Originally Posted by Dale_M
In the United States and Europe, yes, but not world-wide. But of the 33 million persons infected with HIV worldwide most are heterosexual.
HIV transmits more easily if tissue is broken. One of the reasons heterosexual AIDS predominates in the third world is because of the higher rate of ulcerative STDs. This also happens in anal sex, whether the person is gay or straight. It should be noted, however, that more than half of gay people do not engage in anal sex.
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Many in the third world are bi-sexual. This is how HIV is spread mostly to the women by the men in their lives.
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Dec 11, '08, 8:04 am
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Re: Moscow's mayor links gays to spread of AIDS
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Many in the third world are bi-sexual. This is how HIV is spread mostly to the women by the men in their lives.
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I've never heard that claim before. Would you happen to have a link to support it?
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Dec 11, '08, 10:01 am
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Re: Moscow's mayor links gays to spread of AIDS
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But simply being gay or lesbian doesn't mean you are going to get or transmit HIV.
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You mean chasity can really happens among the majority of gay and lesbian ??
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Dec 11, '08, 10:44 am
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Re: Moscow's mayor links gays to spread of AIDS
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You mean chasity can really happens among the majority of gay and lesbian ??
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I never made that claim.
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Dec 11, '08, 11:17 am
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Re: Moscow's mayor links gays to spread of AIDS
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I've never heard that claim before. Would you happen to have a link to support it?
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One of the things that Africa has been doing about the HIV/AIDS situation there is to strongly support relationships between a husband and wife only. You can search up the links my computer filters because of the kids.
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Dec 11, '08, 12:46 pm
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Re: Moscow's mayor links gays to spread of AIDS
Fact: Gays spread AIDS to each other
Fact: Heterosexual woman get AIDS from bi-sexual men
Fact: AIDS was spread by homosexuality
Conclusion: It's all their fault
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Originally Posted by Dale_M
But to get back on topic, the mayor of Moscow wants to ban gay speech and the freedom of gays to associate with one another. He tries to justify his repression of civil liberties by using HIV as an excuse. But simply being gay or lesbian doesn't mean you are going to get or transmit HIV. What transmits HIV are some very specific practices such as anal sex or (especially for Russia and countries of the former Soviet bloc) IV drug abuse. If the mayor truly wanted to reduce HIV transmission he would create programs which reduce risk.
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Dec 11, '08, 12:48 pm
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Re: Moscow's mayor links gays to spread of AIDS
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Fact: Gays spread AIDS to each other
Fact: Heterosexual woman get AIDS from bi-sexual men
Fact: AIDS was spread by homosexuality
Conclusion: It's all their fault
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Facts only help an argument if they're real...
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Dec 11, '08, 1:27 pm
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Re: Moscow's mayor links gays to spread of AIDS
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Wow, it sounds like you've been fed some real propaganda by the militant homosexuals.
They don't care if their disinformation makes people die, as long as it suits their agenda of forcing all of us to recognize their unions as valid.
And gay sex between two males is much much MUCH more likely to transmit AIDS than normal sex.
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Keep 'em comming! Your flamming attraction to distortion regarding gays is rather hilarious!! It's comments like this that actually help the cause for equality, seperating fact from fiction and from just plain nonsense.
When it comes to sexually transmitting AIDS, the culprit is .......(drum roll please) PROMISCUITY!!
You can't CREATE AIDS by putting two men together. And two men who don't have AIDS can't transmit it. In fact, just for the sake of argument, unlike a hetrosexual couple, the only ones that can't sexually transmit AIDS is the female homosexual couple.
But because of comments like yours, Neil, you make yourself and others like you a tangible poster child for distorted, discriminatory hysteria. Thanks for giving bias a face!
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Dec 11, '08, 1:39 pm
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Re: Moscow's mayor links gays to spread of AIDS
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Originally Posted by KathleenElsie
One of the things that Africa has been doing about the HIV/AIDS situation there is to strongly support relationships between a husband and wife only. You can search up the links my computer filters because of the kids.
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This is not proof at all. Do you have actual proof to back up the claim, or not?
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