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Old Sep 28, '09, 2:05 pm
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Default Chart of part of the Summa

I was talking to my girlfriend the other day, and she mentioned that her dad did not believe God was an intellect. While I was reviewing the summa on God's cognition, my brain started to whirl. I was trying to understand all Aquinas' points up until cognition in my mind and was having a terribly hard time doing it. After all, we have discursive minds and I was attempting to skip knowing things habitually. I made a flow chart on how Aquinas' proofs depend on previous ones so previously proven points can be taken for granted and known habitually. That way, I could understand the latter points of his argumentation. I figured this was the best place to put the chart up for scrutiny and make sure I didn't skip any of his essential argumentation for any particular subject. Criticism welcome!

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Old Sep 28, '09, 6:21 pm
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Default Re: Chart of part of the Summa

Good arguments, but, it's not how most atheists think. Most think like this:

- Dose God exist?
- Assuming he dose, is he good?
- Evil exists, why would a good God permit evil?
- A good God wouldn't allow evil to exist
- God is not a good God
- Most believers believe God is good
- Therefore, God doesn't exist

Or:

- Dose God exist?
- That believer was pretty rude to me
- But he says God calls him to be good
- He's being pretty hypocritical
- I shouldn't believe what he says until he lives what he preaches
- Therefore, I don't believe in God

Or:

- Dose God exist?
- That believer was pretty rude to me
- But he says God calls him to be good
- He's being pretty hypocritical
- Most believers I meet are rude
- They must be all hypocrites
- I shouldn't believe what they say until they live what they preach
- Therefore, I don't believe in God

Or, if they're really desperate:

- Dose God exist?
- God is said to have created Hell
- I don't like the idea of spending eternity in Hell
- Why would God create me for Hell?
- He is an evil God
- Most believers believe He is good
- Therefore, God doesn't exist
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