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Old Dec 4, '09, 12:26 pm
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It's actually from Taize and they are good, most of the time. The only problem with Eat This Bread is that each verse has a very different setting to it. It is great for the choir, but, it confuses the daylights out of the faithful in the pews, especially if they do not read music. It is better for them to sing the refrain and leave the choir to haggle with the verses.

I speak with experience on this one because when our parish tried it, the faithful kept getting lost and, unfortunately, it threw off the choir. I had to sing a little louder than usual to try to bring everyone back together. Even when the choir was rehearsing it prior to Mass, I tried to help them with the verses, but, it was hard.

CatholicZ09, if you are going to use it, make sure that your choir has a good handle on the verses and just leave the refrain to the faithful in the pews. It will save you both a lot of earache. In other words, treat this song as you would the responsorial.

I need to clarify something in my previous post. I was going to edit, but, I got called away to go look for two students so I did not have the chance to cler things up.

When I was a kid, I had to sing a lot of this stuff for our Catholic school glee club. It was either glee club or sports. I did not like it then because, even as a kid, there was just something about those songs that rubbed me the wrong way. But, I operated under the premise that "Sister knows bettter, so shut up." It was not until I went to the University of Texas and landed at the parish across the street from campus that I discovered that there was so much more to liturgical music than what we were getting. In fact, to hear the children's choir sing good solid traditional music made me feel as though I was being cheated out of what I strongly believe is the birthright of every Catholic, solid sacred music.

The SLJ stuff came out at about the same time as Joan Baez, Simon and Garfunkel and Jodi Mitchell. It's fine if you want to hear that stuff on the 60s on 6 or the 70s on 7 on Sirius. But, we need to remember that we are doing something totally different when it comes to the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass. We need to remember that at the Mass, heaven and earth intersect, as do time and space. Something sacred, mystical, majestic and cosmic is happening. The music needs to reflect that.
Yeah, with "Eat this Bread" I can see how it would throw people off. It's listed in the hymnal above each verse for example:

Verse 1: Cantor

1. I am the bread of life, the true bread sent from the Father."

and so on.
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Yeah, with "Eat this Bread" I can see how it would throw people off. It's listed in the hymnal above each verse for example:

Verse 1: Cantor

1. I am the bread of life, the true bread sent from the Father."

and so on.
Worse yet, in other books, there is no notation as to how the song should be divided. At least the old Worship III hymnal only put in the refrain.
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It's actually from Taize and they are good, most of the time. The only problem with Eat This Bread is that each verse has a very different setting to it. It is great for the choir, but, it confuses the daylights out of the faithful in the pews, especially if they do not read music. It is better for them to sing the refrain and leave the choir to haggle with the verses.

I speak with experience on this one because when our parish tried it, the faithful kept getting lost and, unfortunately, it threw off the choir. I had to sing a little louder than usual to try to bring everyone back together. Even when the choir was rehearsing it prior to Mass, I tried to help them with the verses, but, it was hard.
I've liked some of Taize as well. "Eat This Bread" has been a hymn I liked. I will agree that the verses (musically-speaking, I mean) are definitely not great for congregation. Actually, every time I've heard it done at mass or have cantored it, they only have the congregation sing the refrain and the cantor sing the verses. I know that the OCP hymnal includes the verses, but the Worship hymnal and the We Celebrate hymnal only include the refrain for the congregation to sing. I think the way those two hymnals set it up makes more sense, because some of the verses can be difficult to sing for a non-trained singer or someone with a lower register.

It's definitely a hymn that can be done tastefully and prayerfully and sound lovely with the right musicians (instrumentalists and singers). The only thing I'd suggest is that the cantor is a musician or someone who can learn by rote very well and quickly, if he/she can't read music, because it's a "naked" piece and a mistake in that particular piece, even a simple one, can really sound blatant.
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Every Valley is still a good some to me, hehe.

Hosea, have you ever used this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mp0-ns3SPVc

Refrain: Eat this bread, drink this cup, come to me and never be hungry. Eat this bread, drink this cup, trust in me and you will not thirt.

1. I am the bread of life, the true bread sent from the Father. REFRAIN

2. Your ancestors ate manna in the desert, but this is the bread come down from heaven. REFRAIN

3. Eat my flesh and drink my blood, and I will raise you up on the last day. REFRAIN

4. Anyone who eats this bread, will live forever. REFRAIN

5. If you believe and eat this bread, you will have eternal life. REFRAIN

It's a nice contemporary communion song.
We used Eat this bread many times when we had Gather. I agree with everyone that the refrain is very singable for the faithful and the harmony is great but the verses are just for the choir. I can't remember if Gather put the notes with the verses or not.

Gee, I miss Gather. It had some of our favorite Advent songs; My soul in stillness waits, Come, oh Lord and set us free, and our favorite all time Cooney tune, Your Mercy like rain. Journeysongs is ok but their Advent section is pretty poor.

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By the way, I can't listen to Youtube here at work so I'll listen at home.
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some changes to 2nd Sunday of Advent C

entrance: Come, o Lord and set us free from Gather #85
Kyrie: Advent wreath service (no one ever said if they have heard this or not. Oh well...)
Response: The Lord has done great things for us Journeysongs 103
Prep: My soul in stillness waits Gather 328
Communion: I am the living bread and Patience, people
close: Rise up, Jerusalem. Wonderful old Glory & praise song.
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we are using sheets for entrance, prep, and closing.
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some changes to 2nd Sunday of Advent C

entrance: Come, o Lord and set us free from Gather #85
Kyrie: Advent wreath service (no one ever said if they have heard this or not. Oh well...)
Response: The Lord has done great things for us Journeysongs 103
Prep: My soul in stillness waits Gather 328
Communion: I am the living bread and Patience, people
close: Rise up, Jerusalem. Wonderful old Glory & praise song.
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I am curious as to why you aren't using O Come, O Come Emmanuel? It is the Church's oldest Advent hymn. There is nothing wrong with using the same entrance processional for all four Sundays of Lent.
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This is what my parish did for this weekend.

Entrance Antiphon: Populus Sion (sung in English, though)

Kyrie - chanted

Psalm - setting by Michel Guimont

Credo III - chanted from Mass XVII

Offertory - The Voice of God Goes Out through All the World

Communion Antiphon - Psalm 84

Recessional - Comfort, Comfort, O My People
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LET ALL MORTAL MEN BE SILENT! that is a great beginning to a hymn--so why not take the advise and STOP SINGING IT!! To sing is to pray twice,to sing COME AS YOU ARE is to sin twice!!just kidding.I know the sediments are there but it does not sit with the Gospel--repent--prepare Ye the Way of the Lord.
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http://www.christthepriest.com/asset...ointercede.pdf

This will take you to five of my new favorite hymns-you will have to scroll to pages 58 to 61 for the Hymns.Three of them are translations from Latin made by Bishop Peter Elliott ( a noted liturgical expert and a former Anglican-he made the translations in Rome, when he worked for The Congregation for the Family, at the request of Fr.John Thomas Whiting the founder of The Society of Christ Priest and Victim) here is the list-
O Christ,Hight Priest Eternal . trans.Elliott.
Jesus our High Priest,Lord and Mediator . tran .Elliott
Earch joins with heaven,echoing Your praises. trans.Elliot
We have a High Priest!Christ Jesus the Lord Rev.Tim Brien
Childrens'Hymn to Christ the Priest.

These are all beautiful Hymns full of Worship,Thanks,Adoration and Praise--is it not what singing hymns is all about.Worth while going to the trouble to download them.
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Here is my list:

O Come O Come
On Jordan's Bank / Like a Shepherd
Taste and See
O Sanctissima
Soon and Very Soon.
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I'm starting to practice the Christmas hymns.
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I'm starting to practice the Christmas hymns.
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Ditto.
I'm looking at the keyboard accompaniment for "O Come, All Ye Faithful" and I think I'm going to add some notes in the music because I hear some extra notes added in in some versions and it sounds a little better than the one I have. (It's from OCP). Has anyone ever done that?
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Here is my song line-up for Sunday, December 13, 2009 (Third Sunday of Advent):

Opening Song: Come, Thou Long-Expected Jesus (tune of STUTTGART)
Offertory: Come, Come Emmanuel by James Chepponis
Missa Emmanuel by Proulx
Communion: Lo, How a Rose E're Blooming
Closing: People, Look East

What do you think?

I'm having trouble finding a suitable psalm for this Sunday (Psalm = Isaiah 12:2-6). I'm not a big fan of OCP, so I'm not using the Respond & Acclaim for this Sunday. Does anyone have any suggestions? What are you using? Any help would be greatly appreciated! :-)

Thanks!
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