Are Muslims Worshipping the same God as the Jews & Christians?

[Byzantine_Wolf]

Originally Posted by eOxy

With pleasure, after you.

Again, I am not the one making the claim that Roman Catholics and Protestants worship a God entirely different from Orthodox. If you wish to make a claim and then accuse fellow Orthodox of holding personal beliefs, please cite some Orthodox councils or Holy Fathers to verify your opinion.

[dzheremi]

Originally Posted by eOxy

Exactly.

This thread makes too many false presumptions.

Orthodox aren't part of such an alliance.

Who ever said they were? That is also not what this thread is about, so please take your "more Orthodox than Patriarch Bartholomew" attitude to a different thread.

[Byzantine_Wolf]

Originally Posted by eOxy

I will produce quotes, in a due time

I look forward to it.

[dzheremi]

Ah, I see..."Bart" is not Orthodox enough for you. Well, have fun being a church unto yourself. Sorry we're all such terrible sinners who have fallen short of your grace.

[JharekCarnelian]

Originally Posted by jakasaki

I'm trully embarassed, I myself being a Greek Orthodox Christian and reading your replies, shame, shame!.

I've been on a few Orthodox forums on the internet and the way you all bash the Catholics is shamefull, down right shamefull ~ AND YES, don't tell me the Catholics do the same because I've seen them too.

If anything is going to break Christianity and make islam bigger and stronger is Christianity itself.



May the LORD have mercy on all of our souls!

Yes I won't pretend some of the remarks fellow Catholics have made about the Orthodox here haven't made me cringe in emberassment from time to time. I do not judge the majority of Orthodox by the actions of a lone voice. I am aware we have disagreements and would happily admit that they pose a stumbling block for both sides but the claim Catholics and the Orthodox worship different Gods is jaw-dropping. It's something I've never seen before. As Dzheremi says I think though it is unwise to go into this now for the reasons they cite. However I will say to eoxy continue this and I suspect you may not be on this site much longer as plainly your views do not resonate with the majority of the Orthodox posters here, which I am not surprised by. My wife found them bizarre in the extreme when I showed them to her. Enough now of what is ultimately a storm in a teacup.

Returning to the actual point of the thread. As I say I believe Muslims do worship the same God but in a very imperfect manner indeed and with a very distorted understanding. Also I grow weary of every so often having to explain to Muslims that we do not worship three gods. When it is new posters who know little about Christianity and are genuinely just ignorant of Christian theology that's ok. However those like Planten or Hamba who persist in believing what they would like to think Christians believe and applying double standards and bizarre lines of logic - well that's entirely another case.

[JharekCarnelian]

Originally Posted by eOxy

That is not my attitude.

I don't hold Bart as a criterion of Orthodoxy. Frankly, I don't hold him Orthodox at all.

That's a most disrespectful manner to refer to a Patriach by. I'm not Orthodox but would never dream of talking about the various Patriachs in such a manner.

[jakasaki]

Originally Posted by eOxy

That is not my attitude.

I don't hold Bart as a criterion of Orthodoxy. Frankly, I don't hold him Orthodox at all.

Re: Are Muslims Worshipping the same God as the Jews & Christians?

Can YOU answer the topic of the thread?????

[jakasaki]

Originally Posted by Byzantine_Wolf

I look forward to it.

Byz Wolf - please dont' feed the trolls..... stick to

Re: Are Muslims Worshipping the same God as the Jews & Christians?

[jakasaki]

Originally Posted by JharekCarnelian

Yes I won't pretend some of the remarks fellow Catholics have made about the Orthodox here haven't made me cringe in emberassment from time to time. I do not judge the majority of Orthodox by the actions of a lone voice. I am aware we have disagreements and would happily admit that they pose a stumbling block for both sides but the claim Catholics and the Orthodox worship different Gods is jaw-dropping. It's something I've never seen before. As Dzheremi says I think though it is unwise to go into this now for the reasons they cite. However I will say to eoxy continue this and I suspect you may not be on this site much longer as plainly your views do not resonate with the majority of the Orthodox posters here, which I am not surprised by. My wife found them bizarre in the extreme when I showed them to her. Enough now of what is ultimately a storm in a teacup.

Returning to the actual point of the thread. As I say I believe Muslims do worship the same God but in a very imperfect manner indeed and with a very distorted understanding. Also I grow weary of every so often having to explain to Muslims that we do not worship three gods. When it is new posters who know little about Christianity and are genuinely just ignorant of Christian theology that's ok. However those like Planten or Hamba who persist in believing what they would like to think Christians believe and applying double standards and bizarre lines of logic - well that's entirely another case.

JC & DZ: ~

I can't stand it anymore!

Perhaps it's because I come from both religious backgrounds.

Catholics & Greek Orthodox..... I JUST can't take it anymore.


Topic:

Returning to the actual point of the thread. As I say I believe Muslims do worship the same God but in a very imperfect manner indeed and with a very distorted understanding.

Agreed! And no worries DZ, I will not bring up CCC.... (what's that number again???)

Also I grow weary of every so often having to explain to Muslims that we do not worship three gods.

Yes, it does get after so many times repeating the same ol''

[dzheremi]

Originally Posted by jakasaki

Agreed! And no worries DZ, I will not bring up CCC.... (what's that number again???)

Hahaha...you are too much, Jakasaki!

I guess that's why I've (shamefully? tactfully?) avoided addressing the OP myself...not only because I've had enough of the OP's constant harping on one particular issue across multiple threads, but because I feel like we've been over this so often...sort like how Jharek feels about the idea of the Holy Trinity being "three gods" (another cringe-worthy idea to me, but less so than the topic of this thread, because at least then I'm not arguing with other Christians).

[Byzantine_Wolf]

Originally Posted by jakasaki

Byz Wolf - please dont' feed the trolls..... stick to

Re: Are Muslims Worshipping the same God as the Jews & Christians?

I fed him some reported notifications...seemed to work.