Founder of Opus Dei pro-Hitler?

[Jamz]

Here's a quote I got in an email from an anti-Catholic relative of mine. Please help me respond to it...in love.

"In fact, Cardinal Ratzinger publicly praised the fascist movement in the Church known as Opus Dei and supported canonization of Josemaria Escriva, the founder of Opus Dei, an open fascist who served in the government of Spain's dictator Franco, and who publicly praised Hitler"

[Franze]

Originally Posted by Jamz

Here's a quote I got in an email from an anti-Catholic relative of mine. Please help me respond to it...in love.

"In fact, Cardinal Ratzinger publicly praised the fascist movement in the Church known as Opus Dei and supported canonization of Josemaria Escriva, the founder of Opus Dei, an open fascist who served in the government of Spain's dictator Franco, and who publicly praised Hitler"

John Paul II canonized Jose Maria Escriva, is this pope nazi? of course not. Opus Dei or Work of God, is a catholic prelature who wants that all people were saint in the current world with his work. Escriva lived in Spain in the Civil War, and many priests were killed by the left, he lived in the franquist zone for being not persecuted but he didn´t pray for Franco and less for Hitler.
There were ministers in the sixties in the dictatorship of Franco from Opus Dei, they were tecnocrats that helped to get better Spain, but and it´s the most important Opus Dei don´t have political position of their members, only is a catholic prelature, not politics. This is the most important to say.

[Vincent]

Turn the tables: ask your relative for evidence that St. Escriva was "an open fascist . . . etc."

[TPJCatholic]

To the best of my knowledge, the only thing I have heard regarding Hitler from Saint Josemaria was that he once said that when compared to the communists, Hitler was the lesser of two evils. That is not exactly a comment of support for Hitler.

[Ani Ibi]

Opus dei:

http://en.romana.org/

Josemaria Escriva:

http://www.josemariaescriva.info/

Chronology of Escriva:

http://www.josemariaescriva.info/ind...=40&id_scat=34

The Spanish Civil War:

http://www.josemariaescriva.info/ind...220&id_scat=35

[chicago]

As I understand, St. Josemaria stayed neutral on the matter. There were priests of OD on both sides of the difficult matter with no real good solution or best position in those trying times.

[rastell]

Originally Posted by Jamz

Here's a quote I got in an email from an anti-Catholic relative of mine. Please help me respond to it...in love.

"In fact, Cardinal Ratzinger publicly praised the fascist movement in the Church known as Opus Dei and supported canonization of Josemaria Escriva, the founder of Opus Dei, an open fascist who served in the government of Spain's dictator Franco, and who publicly praised Hitler"

Read this short book to find out why he had to be pro-Franco. There wasn't much choice in 1930's Spain. By the way, I'd rather live under a pro-Catholic Franco dictatorship than the kind of country the Socialists in today's Spain want.

The Last Crusade: Spain: 1936 (Paperback)
byWarren H. Carroll

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg...50526?v=glance

As for pro-Hitler, sounds like more anti-Catholic garbage.

[FenianMan]

Originally Posted by Jamz

Here's a quote I got in an email from an anti-Catholic relative of mine. Please help me respond to it...in love.

"In fact, Cardinal Ratzinger publicly praised the fascist movement in the Church known as Opus Dei and supported canonization of Josemaria Escriva, the founder of Opus Dei, an open fascist who served in the government of Spain's dictator Franco, and who publicly praised Hitler"

The quote is from the former Fr. Matthew Fox, late of the Dominicans, currently a syncretic Anglo-Wiccan. This vitriolic diatribe can be found along with 21 other "questions" for Benedict XVI including "How can you sleep at night knowing that your policy forbidding condemns in Africa leads to the deaths of..." or something very like that at www.matthewfox.org

Pray for Matt and his reversion to the Faith.

[Ani Ibi]

Originally Posted by FenianMan

The quote is from the former Fr. Matthew Fox, late of the Dominicans, currently a syncretic Anglo-Wiccan.

Ani backs away slowly...

[HagiaSophia]

Originally Posted by FenianMan

Pray for Matt and his reversion to the Faith.

Actually I pray regularly that Fox and his ilk take a perpetual vow of silence. That's a "service" I'd welcome.

[Jamz]

Originally Posted by FenianMan

The quote is from the former Fr. Matthew Fox, late of the Dominicans, currently a syncretic Anglo-Wiccan. This vitriolic diatribe can be found along with 21 other "questions" for Benedict XVI including "How can you sleep at night knowing that your policy forbidding condemns in Africa leads to the deaths of..." or something very like that at www.matthewfox.org

Pray for Matt and his reversion to the Faith.

You nailed it FenianMan. Here's the entire article (written by a Rabbi actually) from some kind of liberal Jewish magazine. Please understand this is NOT a representation of the Jewish faith.
http://www.tikkun.org/rabbi_lerner/c...-19.4230239892

[MJE]

Influental orthodox Catholics seem to get the "pro Nazi" label easily from their enemies. St Maximillian Kolbe has also been aligned as such by his enemies. Yawn.

[FenianMan]

Originally Posted by Jamz

You nailed it FenianMan. Here's the entire article (written by a Rabbi actually) from some kind of liberal Jewish magazine. Please understand this is NOT a representation of the Jewish faith.
http://www.tikkun.org/rabbi_lerner/c...-19.4230239892

I beg your pardon for the misassociation, but the quotes are very similar. Out of charity I have to assume it to be a coincidence, but...

[deb1]

Originally Posted by MJE

Influental orthodox Catholics seem to get the "pro Nazi" label easily from their enemies. St Maximillian Kolbe has also been aligned as such by his enemies. Yawn.

Didn't St Maximillian die in a concentration camp? How could any one label him Pro Nazi?

[PopePeterII]

why is it when a german does something the first thing on there mind is "nazi". lets put it this way, if benny XVI wanted there to be less of the jewish faith he would have already exploded his power.

the supision of Opus Dei has given me the thought of this.

these people have been reading waaaay to many Dan brown novels(da vinci code)