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Nov 8, '10, 1:11 am
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Re: Temporary Ban on Evolution/Atheism Threads
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Originally Posted by _Locke_
I advise you to delete this post, the mod has already stated that any petitioning will result in account deletion. (signature relevant ↓)
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Is it possible to delete a post subsequently?
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Nov 8, '10, 9:42 am
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Re: Temporary Ban on Evolution/Atheism Threads
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Originally Posted by tonyrey
Is it possible to delete a post subsequently?
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Yes, as long as it's within a certain time limit. (15 minutes or something like that)
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Nov 10, '10, 12:43 am
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Re: Temporary Ban on Evolution/Atheism Threads
soooooooooo when is there going to be a 'similar threads' ban, its getting out of hand....
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Nov 10, '10, 4:54 am
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Re: Temporary Ban on Evolution/Atheism Threads
What is this thread SUPPOSED to be about, anyway? I've never figured that out. Nothing substantive ever gets discussed here.
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Nov 20, '10, 11:12 pm
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Re: Temporary Ban on Evolution/Atheism Threads
I'm content not having any more trolling going on (I assume that's what invoked the ban in the first place), but I must ask if the moderator who posted the ban is still around?
Is the ban still in effect? Or has it been lifted?
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Dec 10, '10, 11:16 pm
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Re: Temporary Ban on Evolution/Atheism Threads
Is this ban just for the Philosophy forum or is it the entire website?
Perhaps, we should move the discussion to another Catholic website? Would that solve this issue?
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Dec 11, '10, 2:43 am
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Re: Temporary Ban on Evolution/Atheism Threads
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Originally Posted by semper_satis88
Is this ban just for the Philosophy forum or is it the entire website?
Perhaps, we should move the discussion to another Catholic website? Would that solve this issue?
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AFAICT the ban applies to the Apologetics Forum and its sub-fora, including the Philosophy forum as well as the Non-Catholic Religions forum. The Water Cooler/Back Fence forum explicitly allows discussion of evolution, within certain limits as given by a sticky in that forum.
I am not sure of the situation in other fora.
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Dec 11, '10, 3:40 am
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Re: Temporary Ban on Evolution/Atheism Threads
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Originally Posted by semper_satis88
Is this ban just for the Philosophy forum or is it the entire website?
Perhaps, we should move the discussion to another Catholic website? Would that solve this issue?
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Believe it's effectively the whole site, apart from one highly controlled and restrictive board.
I haven't found any other sites that are as interesting as this one, although I'd be glad to hear of one as I'm not a huge fan of the selective banning of valid opinions.
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On my ignore list: tonyrey - for valid reasons that I am nevertheless forbidden from expressing!
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Dec 11, '10, 8:41 am
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Fill a brother in, yo.
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Originally Posted by illmatic
Could someone explain why threads with athiest discussions are banned please? I wasn't here for whatever heat started this.
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While being careful not to cite any preference for any moderative injunction in any direction, at all, ever and forever amen, I am also curious regarding the motivation for artificial silence. Was there some grand CAF coup whilst I was distracted elsewhere? My thirst for understanding burns. It burns like fire!
Aauuuugghh!
Ouch!
Owie!
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Dec 15, '10, 1:41 pm
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Re: Fill a brother in, yo.
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My thirst for understanding burns. It burns like fire!
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It was the raging heat generated by the discussions that led to the ban... 
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Jan 21, '11, 11:45 am
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Re: Temporary Ban on Evolution/Atheism Threads
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Originally Posted by jakedubbleya
This forum is the face of Catholic apologetics on the internet and I am absolutely riled to see that it's moderators have chosen to portray Catholicism as a weak, ignorant religion unable to discuss essential questions. I would certainly disagree with such a viewpoint.
Even worse, this ban has come to the philosophy forum. This is an insult to Catholicism and it's rich tradition of the intellectual discovery of God.
Boot me if you must but I find this ban infinitely more damaging and offensive to Catholicism than any immature trolling could ever be. I feel it is my ethical duty as a member of the philosophical community and a great lover of the Catholic contribution to it to say so. This site is too important to entertain the weakness and intolerance of it's administrators and/or moderators.
With all earnest and sincerity,
-Jake
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It sounds like someone does not spend the time to read the sticky before spewing his mouth. It sounds like the same someone is such an ethical gift to Catholicism and philosophy and that he knows that if Catholics cannot discuss evolution for a period of time then the whole religion will go down the drain for lack of intellectual credibility. 
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Jan 21, '11, 2:10 pm
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Re: Fill a brother in, yo.
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Originally Posted by tonyrey
It was the raging heat generated by the discussions that led to the ban... |
What raging discussion, or any other kind of discussion, has there been here in eons (hyperbole on)? This thread is just nothing. People only talk about what they can't talk about here, or poke fun at the whole thing, like I do.
I'm cancelling my subscription to this thread, because it's going nowhere, and I'm tired of getting notifications on it. You people would be well-advised to do the same. The moderator's dead, and the killswitch is disabled, I'm thoroughly convinced.
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Jan 21, '11, 7:14 pm
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Re: Temporary Ban on Evolution/Atheism Threads
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Originally Posted by jakedubbleya
I have read the sticky, believe my points to be valid and do not find your exaggerated ad hominem rebuttal to be of any significance/help.
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Most people who post in this forum are smart enought not to make the illogical leap that equates a ban of this nature with weakness or ignorance. Nor is it likely that such school yard tactics as name-calling would be effective in changing a moderators decision.
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Jan 21, '11, 7:55 pm
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Re: Temporary Ban on Evolution/Atheism Threads
The mods are all alive and well thank you very much and the ban remains in place because so many of you still cannot discuss/debate evolution or atheism without heated and uncharitable polemics.
Bad mouthing us on the public forums will very directly have consequences as specified in the initial post above from Jo.
Very sincerely,
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