Jack Van Impe - Page 2

m134e5 · #16 Apr 4, '11, 8:24 am

Jack Van Impe is such a fraud! I'm surprised anybody takes him seriously. Also, whenever I hear "Rexella," I imagine a bad sci-fi movie that's a cross between Jurassic Park and Godzilla.

garysibio · #17 Apr 4, '11, 10:37 am

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Jack Van Impe is such a fraud! I'm surprised anybody takes him seriously. Also, whenever I hear "Rexella," I imagine a bad sci-fi movie that's a cross between Jurassic Park and Godzilla.

Don't be so quick to judge. It's above your pay grade.

Like I said, JVI lost quite a few followers when he changed his mind about the Catholic Church. He lost a lot of financial support when he did so. However he decided that he was going to stand up for what he believed was true no matter what it cost him. Yes, his show is a bit strange and I don't agree with a lot of what he has to say but he is no fraud. We could use more like him.

lizaanne · #18 Apr 4, '11, 12:50 pm

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We could use more like him.

We???? Who do you speak for? Certainly not Catholics.

WE - don't need anyone who leads souls away from the Truth and preaches outright garbage and hysteria. He will have a lot to answer for on his last day.

JVI is no idiot - he knows exactly what he's doing, and he does it well. That does NOT mean that what he does is good by any stretch of the imagination.

~Liza

garysibio · #19 Apr 4, '11, 2:31 pm

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We???? Who do you speak for? Certainly not Catholics.

WE - don't need anyone who leads souls away from the Truth and preaches outright garbage and hysteria. He will have a lot to answer for on his last day.

JVI is no idiot - he knows exactly what he's doing, and he does it well. That does NOT mean that what he does is good by any stretch of the imagination.

~Liza

Liza,

You might actually try reading what I write before you respond. I never complimented Van Impe on his beliefs which I also reject. I was talking about his integrity which was being attacked by another forum member. I was listening to a podcast of one of Fr Mitch Pacwa's radio programs and he also had nice things to say about Van Impe, especially his knowledge of the Bible.

JRRTFAN · #20 Apr 4, '11, 3:35 pm

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To be fair Van Impe lost a lot more of his Protestant base than he gained in Catholic viewers when he started speaking positively about the Catholic Church.

I wouldn't know about that. I wasn't aware these TV fellows made the support census available for public scrutiny, (in fact I didn't know they even asked faith background when a hapless supporter called the phone bank) but I would love to see some figures on all these guys.

JRRTFAN · #21 Apr 4, '11, 3:40 pm

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Very true! Well -- at least we know where some of the donations from viewers are going to: Rexella's plastic surgeries to acquire that look of agelessness.

WHAT! PLASTIC SURGERIES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!! I refuse to believe it. Why the next thing you'll be saying she bleaches her hair and that her Doctorate is somehow flawed. You are very mean.

garysibio · #22 Apr 4, '11, 3:54 pm

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WHAT! PLASTIC SURGERIES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!! I refuse to believe it. Why the next thing you'll be saying she bleaches her hair and that her Doctorate is somehow flawed. You are very mean.

Right. And no Catholics ever get plastic surgery or dye their hair.

Regardless of their theology or their appearance, their attitude about others who disagree with them seems to be more Christ-like than the attitude I'm seeing in this thread.

mark a · #23 Apr 4, '11, 3:58 pm

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What do you all think of Jack Van Impe's

He doesn't Catholic bash, so he's ok by me.

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Biblical Prophesy interpretation?

Anyone who keeps calling for the end of the world or even a rapture will eventually be right. The thing that gets me though is most of these guys seem to be lone wolfing it.

JRRTFAN · #24 Apr 4, '11, 5:23 pm

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Right. And no Catholics ever get plastic surgery or dye their hair.

Regardless of their theology or their appearance, their attitude about others who disagree with them seems to be more Christ-like than the attitude I'm seeing in this thread.

First of all, you need to look out in the shed for your sensayuma, if you have one. Secondly, Jack Van Impe holds (at least as he propounds on television) to heretical beliefs and preaches same - that's a fact - "the rapture" is heresy, sorry if it's mean to say that! Third, Jack Van Impe preached anti-Catholicism for years, he was not rehabilitated, he preaches to the audience which gives him donations (check out his website). Fourth, your "let's bear with whatever anybody says and does with love, joy and no criticism" is substantively flawed. But this is all just my opinion, except for the facts. I have nothing against Jack, I enjoy watching his act, it's fun. The more quickly you realize it's an act the better off you will be.

And yes, garysibio, a lot of Catholics get plastic surgery and dye their hair and I'll go you one more, Dr. Rexella Van Impe has remarkably maintained a youthful appearance and I salute her for it. Further, I think her "straight man" act to Jack is hillarious. What do you find hillarious?

garysibio · #25 Apr 4, '11, 5:26 pm

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First of all, you need to look out in the shed for your sensayuma, if you have one. Secondly, Jack Van Impe holds (at least as he propounds on television) to heretical beliefs and preaches same - that's a fact - "the rapture" is heresy, sorry if it's mean to say that! Third, Jack Van Impe preached anti-Catholicism for years, he was not rehabilitated, he preaches to the audience which gives him donations (check out his website). Fourth, your "let's bear with whatever anybody says and does with love, joy and no criticism" is substantively flawed. But this is all just my opinion, except for the facts. I have nothing against Jack, I enjoy watching his act, it's fun. The more quickly you realize it's an act the better off you will be.

And yes, garysibio, a lot of Catholics get plastic surgery and dye their hair and I'll go you one more, Dr. Rexella Van Impe has remarkably maintained a youthful appearance and I salute her for it. Further, I think her "straight man" act to Jack is hillarious. What do you find hillarious?

Right now, you. Don't bother responding. Life is too short to deal with people like you. I'm adding you to my ignore list.

CEM5 · #26 Apr 4, '11, 7:47 pm

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Right. And no Catholics ever get plastic surgery or dye their hair.

Regardless of their theology or their appearance, their attitude about others who disagree with them seems to be more Christ-like than the attitude I'm seeing in this thread.

Hi garysibio,

I don't know of a single Catholic who has their own TV show and supports their lavish lifestyle by promoting heretical and dangerous false teachings. They take money from others by fear mongering (for that is what the false teaching of a rapture does: instill fear for gullible people) and then use it for vanity. If Rexella was working an honest job as millions of other poor hardworking folks do (say at Walmart) and wanted a facelift -- then by all means go for it. But the money they have for their wealthy lifestyle comes from other hard working folks.

JVI may "know" bible quotes, but memorizing the verses and understanding the meaning of those verses are two entirely different things.

A little toddler just learning to recite the ABC's can memorize them, but ask them the meaning of those letters and their importance, and that child won't know.

There are many deep truths that are found in the Scriptures and the Church - the magesterium - is the one who can teach the truth of doctrines.

Even St. Peter warned:

2 Peter 3:16 NRSA
speaking of this as he does in all his letters. There are some things in them hard to understand, which the ignorant and unstable twist to their own destruction, as they do the other scriptures.

2 Peter 2:1 NRSA
But false prophets also arose among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you, who will secretly bring in destructive opinions.

And this is where we find truth

1 Timothy 3:15 NRSA
if I am delayed, you may know how one ought to behave in the household of God, which is the church of the living God, the pillar and bulwark of the truth.

God bless,
CEM

djrakowski · #27 Apr 5, '11, 10:07 am

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I haven't seen JVI in a long time but he used to have an announcer with an absolutely great voice, doing all the promos for his videos and stuff. He sounded like the late movie trailer guy. It made me want to buy the videos about the Rapture and the Antichrist and stuff. This was maybe in the mid 90s.

His name's Chuck Ohman! At one time, he was a music director at the Baptist church I attended before converting to Catholicism (and in fact, several of his family members, as well as those of Dr. Van Impe, are also associated with that church). He's a fantastic guy, and plays a mean trumpet, too

Bobby Jim · #28 Apr 5, '11, 9:46 pm

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His name's Chuck Ohman! At one time, he was a music director at the Baptist church I attended before converting to Catholicism (and in fact, several of his family members, as well as those of Dr. Van Impe, are also associated with that church). He's a fantastic guy, and plays a mean trumpet, too

Cool! I used to think they just hired some guy to do the voiceovers, but then every once in a while he would show up on camera with Jack and Rexella, and you could see he was there live, with that voice. Too bad they didn't have him play trumpet on air too. JVI was all on top of the prophesies from Revelation; I'm sure he could have added some sound effects for the angels with their trumpets.

Robertanthony · #29 Apr 5, '11, 10:09 pm

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with that church) He plays a mean trumpet, too

Now that you mention that, I could be wrong but I'm pretty sure I saw him play it once on the show back in the days when I was eagerly anticipating Jack's show. To me JVI came across as a sincere guy who truly loves God.

djrakowski · #30 Apr 6, '11, 6:19 am

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Cool! I used to think they just hired some guy to do the voiceovers, but then every once in a while he would show up on camera with Jack and Rexella, and you could see he was there live, with that voice. Too bad they didn't have him play trumpet on air too. JVI was all on top of the prophesies from Revelation; I'm sure he could have added some sound effects for the angels with their trumpets.

My wife and I were well acquainted with Chuck, and his daughter was in the choir with us as well. I can assure you, he's as real as it gets. Oh, and we frequently sat behind Rexella's mom during service

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Now that you mention that, I could be wrong but I'm pretty sure I saw him play it once on the show back in the days when I was eagerly anticipating Jack's show. To me JVI came across as a sincere guy who truly loves God.

Yeah, I think he used to do little impromptu performances on the show. And it's true - JVI, Rexella, Chuck, and their families are wonderful people - desperately wrong about Bible prophecy, but kind, devout, sincere Christians nonetheless.