"23 Hours Dead" - Angelica Zambrano shown visions of Heaven and Hell

[Monica4316]

I read this before and it caused me a lot of doubt until I spoke to a priest and read several stories about the Saints seeing Mary, etc, which seem very credible and I woudln't say any of them are from the enemy.

[Lui]

Originally Posted by Monica4316

I read this before and it caused me a lot of doubt until I spoke to a priest and read several stories about the Saints seeing Mary, etc, which seem very credible and I woudln't say any of them are from the enemy.

I don't really get what you mean. Does that mean you believe that Angelica Zambrano had these experiences?

[CatholicZ09]

Originally Posted by Lui

I don't really get what you mean. Does that mean you believe that Angelica Zambrano had these experiences?

I don't think that she is saying that these visions are true, but these visions can hurt people's faith sometimes if they let it.

[Lui]

Originally Posted by CatholicZ09

I don't think that she is saying that these visions are true, but these visions can hurt people's faith sometimes if they let it.

Yes, that's what I strongly believe why I condemn these so-called visions. I also read some comments on Youtube. There were kids who frighteningly asked if they will go to Hell for watching Dragon Ball Z cartoons.

[CatholicZ09]

Originally Posted by Lui

Yes, that's what I strongly believe why I condemn these so-called visions. I also read some comments on Youtube. There were kids who frighteningly asked if they will go to Hell for watching Dragon Ball Z cartoons.

There are so many protestant ministers promoting this "vision" on their church websites. Of course they would.

[Monica4316]

Originally Posted by Lui

I don't really get what you mean. Does that mean you believe that Angelica Zambrano had these experiences?

I mean that I was afraid that they were true, but then I read more about the Saints and they all said something different about Mary. I agree with the Saints.

[music2]

You mean hell with have the Pope AND Michael Jackson?What a fun place!
Just joking/trying to lighten the mood.
Seriously though,i wouldn't walk away from this stuff,i would RUN.
Dont give it attention or time.The internet is full of stories by the dozen or maybe even hundreds(?) that claim similar things or near death experiences and produce lots of feelings of fear and terror.
I don't believe this little girl is a fraud thats making it up for an agenda(though i could be wrong).I think shes a very troubled little girl that possibly has been raised with much fear and taught certain people/things are bad and that they are going to hell and alot of fear has been impressed upon her mind/mental development.My guess is that she possibly did have this experience but whether it happened due to the leftover physical effects /medical induced state(she was a 17 year old girl who claimed had recently been on a 15 day fast) or whether it was satan that took advantage of her already taught beliefs and a possibly already unstable/vulnerable mental disposition,i couldn't say and i don't wish to speculate.
Either way,its not from God and can negatively effect people spiritually or psychologically.

Pleasd pray for the girl and her family to be led out of deception and to not be vulnerable or brainwashable.

Two things, i find interesting here.
1.Its said she is 18 but she looks approx 13.
2.She mentions the words "St Gregory can not save you nor can any saint..." so i'm just wonder if possibly at any point in the past the family had a catholic background due to the mention and knowledge that she has regarding Saints?

[Lui]

Originally Posted by music2

Pleasd pray for the girl and her family to be led out of deception and to not be vulnerable or brainwashable.

Two things, i find interesting here.
1.Its said she is 18 but she looks approx 13.
2.She mentions the words "St Gregory can not save you nor can any saint..." so i'm just wonder if possibly at any point in the past the family had a catholic background due to the mention and knowledge that she has regarding Saints?

Being half South American and having lived there for many years I know that the majority of the people are Catholic. They were probably Catholic before and switched to some fanatical evangelical sect.

Here are some comments made by people on Youtube:

- i so scared im a child and a catholic and dont know what to do

- Thank You for sharing this powerful testimony. Because of this, I allowed my 8 year old son to listen to the ending part of this and he decided to repent of the shows that he has been watching behind our backs. He said in his prayer that it is clear to him what could happen because of these cartoons. Praise God

- Anyone who listens to Michael Jackson's songs or sings them or who is a fan of Michael Jackson, I warn you that satan is trapping you in his web so that you will end up in hell

[CatholicZ09]

I'm confused that Jesus "said", "St. Gregory cannot hear your prayers."

Well, I remember reading a story of St. Theresa of Avila I believe appearing to someone from her order and she said something along the lines of suffering on earth for the sake of mankind.

I don't get the other comment about Mary not knowing the events on earth. MANY saints have had visions and intercessions of Mary, and many saints PROMOTE the intercession of Mary. Whom do we trust?

[AntalKalnoky]

Originally Posted by CatholicZ09

I'm confused that Jesus "said", "St. Gregory cannot hear your prayers."

Well, I remember reading a story of St. Theresa of Avila I believe appearing to someone from her order and she said something along the lines of suffering on earth for the sake of mankind.

I don't get the other comment about Mary not knowing the events on earth. MANY saints have had visions and intercessions of Mary, and many saints PROMOTE the intercession of Mary. Whom do we trust?

This apparent young, teen apparently has bizarre imagination. Why pay Any attention to her wild ideas. Let's Pray for all those who Don't Know Our Lord. Old saying: 'nothing like getting free attention/publicity' The Crazier, the more attention, resulting advertising sales. Other high profile Crazies now like: Not Increasing Tax Payments by the Richest 2%, Cutting Self-Finacial supporting SSA and Medicare, Each Net Plus to our Economy now in their own financing, Not increasing the National Debt: a Violation of the 14th Amendment By Congress itself.

[hdog]

true or not i think it has some good points

[Lui]

Originally Posted by hdog

true or not i think it has some good points

I don't. I can't see anything good in fear-mongers.

[music2]

Originally Posted by Lui

I don't. I can't see anything good in fear-mongers.

[cceerpp]

Hi fellow Catholics I have dealt with this claim as much as I can on my websites here More Catholic Myths To Be Busted Soon http://www.catholicfiction.cc.cc/201...sted-soon.html and especially here Critique of Evangelista Angelica Elizabeth Zambrano Mora http://gadelali.wordpress.com/2011/0...beth-zambrano/ . God bless you.
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[Nazif]

She talks about the ancient minnistry, does she mean the old teastament or wath? i dont understand