Suffering Servants

**Holly3278** · #1 Feb 23, '12, 8:46 pm

I have heard some stuff about suffering servants. I heard that basically God chooses some people to suffer more than others for some reason. I am not sure what the reason is though. From what I understand, suffering servants, if they offer up their sufferings and cope with their sufferings well will grow holy very quickly. What do you all know about this?

Lilsheep88 · #2 Feb 23, '12, 8:51 pm

Whats new? lol... as Catholics we have to enjoy suffering anyway. Our faith is all about carrying crosses. Just as long as we unite our suffering with Jesus and have inner knowledge that all suffering has a bigger purpose.. thats all that matters. Good things are supposed to come out of suffering.... supposively...

**Holly3278** · #3 Feb 23, '12, 9:24 pm

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Originally Posted by Lilsheep88

Whats new? lol... as Catholics we have to enjoy suffering anyway. Our faith is all about carrying crosses. Just as long as we unite our suffering with Jesus and have inner knowledge that all suffering has a bigger purpose.. thats all that matters. Good things are supposed to come out of suffering.... supposively...

Yeah I understand this but it doesn't really answer my question. Does God choose to allow some people to suffer more than others so that they may attain to higher holiness more quickly than others?

Lilsheep88 · #4 Feb 23, '12, 9:30 pm

I think that it is also a personal choice.. Like look at the lives of Saint Faustina, Saint Therese.. they themselves wanted to suffer for the sake of the world. And I they did this through constant communication with God and sometimes via visions / revelations where Jesus actually asks if they want to be a victim soul or not.

Victim Soul: A person specially chosen by God to suffer more than most people during life, and who generously accepts the suffering in union with the Savior and after the example of Christ's own Passion and Death. The motive of a victim soul is a great love of God and the desire to make reparation for the sins of mankind.
http://www.catholicculture.org/cultu...x.cfm?id=37098

So yes.. I would say that being a victim soul would also be a personal choice, although God may ask them.. but the choice is ultimately up to the soul

**Holly3278** · #5 Feb 24, '12, 12:01 am

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Originally Posted by Lilsheep88

I think that it is also a personal choice.. Like look at the lives of Saint Faustina, Saint Therese.. they themselves wanted to suffer for the sake of the world. And I they did this through constant communication with God and sometimes via visions / revelations where Jesus actually asks if they want to be a victim soul or not.

Victim Soul: A person specially chosen by God to suffer more than most people during life, and who generously accepts the suffering in union with the Savior and after the example of Christ's own Passion and Death. The motive of a victim soul is a great love of God and the desire to make reparation for the sins of mankind.
http://www.catholicculture.org/cultu...x.cfm?id=37098

So yes.. I would say that being a victim soul would also be a personal choice, although God may ask them.. but the choice is ultimately up to the soul

Oh okay so God gives you the choice as to be a victim soul or not. But how does this explain why some people suffer a lot more than other people?