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Old Feb 17, '12, 12:01 pm
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What is recommended for beginners/seekers of ECC's?
As an RC who wants something different in their Lenten Season, and the ECC fast seems quite daunting, is there something that might be better, or should I throw caution to the wind and jump fulll in?

BTW, I find it interesting that shrimp would be allowed....mmmmmmmmmmmm
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Old Feb 17, '12, 12:05 pm
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For beginners it is important to consult with a spiritual father to guide you in your fasting.
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Old Feb 17, '12, 7:22 pm
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BTW, I find it interesting that shrimp would be allowed....mmmmmmmmmmmm
I feel the same way about shrimp. Lobster, too. It isn't in the spirit of the fast for me. I'm pregnant for Lent this year, so this year I will have to focus on eating lots of protein and eliminating sugar to keep my gestational diabetes under control. That is actually a lot harder for me than the traditional fast.

As far as non-fasting opportunities to observe Lent... have you had the opportunity to experience the Liturgy of the Pre-sanctified gifts? I highly recommend making it a regular part of the season. I actually look forward to the fast every year, so that I can attend this beautiful service.
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Old Feb 17, '12, 7:26 pm
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I agree, if your not crazy about shrimp then could be a good food for the fast. I happen to love shrimp and eat it as a rare treat so eating it during Lent for me would definitly not be a fasting food.
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What is recommended for beginners/seekers of ECC's?
Bear in mind that Great Lent is not just about fasting. Self-denial / fasting, prayer and charity are the three essentials of the Lenten journey in Eastern tradition.

If you want to experience something genuinely Eastern this Great Lent, I would highly recommend you attend the Liturgy of the Presanctified Gifts.
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If you want to experience something genuinely Eastern this Great Lent, I would highly recommend you attend the Liturgy of the Presanctified Gifts.
Pre-Sanctified Liturgies will be offered every Wednesday and Friday evening at St. Sophia. We're also offering a class on the Eastern fast which we'd love to have you for, Dave! You can see the details in my signature.

Oh, and shrimp are allowed because they're bugs. St. John the Baptist ate locusts.
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You can always experience Great Lent (or any other season or feast day) in an Eastern way by incorporating prayers from the Eastern tradition in your private usage. The Prayer of St. Ephrem is one of the most notable, and is a great prayer to recite at the beginning of each day during Great Lent:

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Lord and Master of my life, spare me from the spirit of indifference, despair, lust for power, and idle chatter.

Instead, bestow on me, your servant, the spirit of integrity, humility, patience, and love.

Yes, O Lord and King, let me see my own sins and not judge my brothers and sisters; for you are blessed forever and ever. Amen.
Have a blessed and spiritual Lenten journey!
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Pre-Sanctified Liturgies will be offered every Wednesday and Friday evening at St. Sophia. We're also offering a class on the Eastern fast which we'd love to have you for, Dave! You can see the details in my signature.

Oh, and shrimp are allowed because they're bugs. St. John the Baptist ate locusts.
Well I love mud bugs too... aka crawfish...lol

BTW website looks fantastic. Huge improvement and very inviting. I've been lurking on there past few weeks reading some of the articles...
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You can always experience Great Lent (or any other season or feast day) in an Eastern way by incorporating prayers from the Eastern tradition in your private usage. The Prayer of St. Ephrem is one of the most notable, and is a great prayer to recite at the beginning of each day during Great Lent:



Have a blessed and spiritual Lenten journey!
Thank you for the recommendation.
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I have to share.

Im reading the book "Great Lent:Journey to Pascha" by Fr Alxander Schmemann and it just speaks to my very core.

He doesnt speak as much about all the regulations, but the reasons behind it.

Even though it's been only the beginning of Great Lent, by focusing on the things he shares in the book, I am having a very pentitially fruitful Lenten season thus far.

It has set my soul aflame. I want to learn more so that next year I can incorporate more of the regulations.
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Im reading the book "Great Lent:Journey to Pascha" by Fr Alxander Schmemann and it just speaks to my very core.
You made an excellent choice for Lenten study!
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I feel the same way about shrimp. Lobster, too. It isn't in the spirit of the fast for me. I'm pregnant for Lent this year, so this year I will have to focus on eating lots of protein and eliminating sugar to keep my gestational diabetes under control. That is actually a lot harder for me than the traditional fast.
Our previous priest was a big shell fish guy. He usually brought some kind of shellfish, great cook!, and was always encouraging us to get into it. I never have but I may try again this Great Lent.

Pregnant? Why did I you were around my age? Obviously not. LOL! That's wonderful you're expecting.

Have I posted here about Rita Madden (MPH, RD) and her Food, Faith, and Fasting podcast this week on Ancient Faith Radio-- "The Dos and Don’ts of Fasting" using her health management perspective?

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This podcast is geared toward Orthodox and non-Orthodox Christians who want to care for their health in a spiritually minded manner. It focuses on ways to manage medical conditions such as weight loss, diabetes, high blood pressure, high cholesterol, gastric reflux, and more. Rita Madden’s theory of health management is based on the wisdom embodied in the Holy Orthodox Church.
She also will email her "Fasting Cookbook" as an attachment if you email her.
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I have to share.

Im reading the book "Great Lent:Journey to Pascha" by Fr Alxander Schmemann and it just speaks to my very core.

He doesnt speak as much about all the regulations, but the reasons behind it.
I think you'll find I've already raved about + Fr Schmemann in other posts, as has ByzCathCantor. I commented in one of those posts that I like what he and some other writers do which is to work from the prayers of the services of Great Lent. As we say in the East the Liturgy IS the catechesis, and it is. So having big chunks of the texts of the prayers not only from DL but from Vespers and Matins etc makes perfect sense.

BTW there is an 8 part series on Ancient Faith Radio "Dn. Michael Hyatt teaches through the book Great Lent by Fr. Alexander Schmemann."

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Even though it's been only the beginning of Great Lent, by focusing on the things he shares in the book, I am having a very pentitially fruitful Lenten season thus far.
And some of us haven't begun Great Lent yet. Those who have begun it have really gotten me pretty jazzed up. I think his section on "The Two Meanings of Fasting" is a must read. It used to be available on goodlebooks, but I'm not sure it still is. But it's available elsewhere on the web.
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In our Church we have teaching on the book of Revelation during lent. It is amazing how it ties into our liturgy and into layout of the Church and the Holy Place, the doors, the candles, the cover of the gospel book and so on.
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