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Apr 7, '12, 4:00 pm
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Re: Military board says Marine should be dismissed
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Originally Posted by VeritasLuxMea
As it appears you are an.. *ahem* Armyvet... please explain what you mean further?
In the U.S., the Constitution *is* the law. So I don't perfectly understand your meaning here,
Unless you're trying to say that a soldier is not bound to follow any order that is unlawful, regardless of said order's constitutionality?
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Yes, if the order is unlawful, the constitutionality of said order doesn't matter.
Edit- Also, soldiers operate under a different set of laws and constitutional freedoms then civilians. The UCMJ being a prime example of this fact.
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Apr 7, '12, 7:08 pm
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Re: Military board says Marine should be dismissed
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Originally Posted by SamH
You mean like John Kerry did? 
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Wasn't Kerry out of he military when he started protestIng?
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Apr 7, '12, 7:10 pm
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Re: Military board says Marine should be dismissed
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Originally Posted by Scott_Lafrance
Maybe he can get out and become the Tea Party version of John Kerry! He can become a fixture in the US Senate, become fantastically wealthy by doing nothing! I love politics in this country. Its like old school European nobility without the birth requirement.
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What does Kerry have to do with this?
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Apr 7, '12, 7:46 pm
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Re: Military board says Marine should be dismissed
Barack Obama is a running dog enemy of the People. Having said that, certain rights are given up by those in the military. The right to free speech being one of them. He should have been well aware of that. Discharge, however, is too harsh and unwarrented.
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Apr 9, '12, 5:30 am
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Re: Military board says Marine should be dismissed
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Originally Posted by Jerry Miah
They aren't analogous at all. Fluke was testifying to Congress the way thousands do every year, basically being a good citizen. It was Rush Limbaugh who made her famous with a three-day long public attack on her through his powerful, malicious forum.
The marine Stein put himself out there with a website which overtly broke his military oath in a way that both disrespected this country and was designed to get attention.
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Hmmm. Thousands of people post their opinions on Facebook every day, basically being a good citizen. Do you question their motivation and intent as well, or just those serving in the military. Or those whose opinion you don't agree with.
Fluke was a know nothing "expert" who was put up in a dog and pony show to garner attention.
Unfortunately, some gave her exactly what she wanted.
Did you see her on "The View"?
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Apr 9, '12, 1:05 pm
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Re: Military board says Marine should be dismissed
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Originally Posted by scipio337
Hmmm. Thousands of people post their opinions on Facebook every day, basically being a good citizen. Do you question their motivation and intent as well, or just those serving in the military. Or those whose opinion you don't agree with.
Fluke was a know nothing "expert" who was put up in a dog and pony show to garner attention.
Unfortunately, some gave her exactly what she wanted.
Did you see her on "The View"?
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Fluke has nothing to do with it. Those in the military are limited in their ability to express political opinions on Facebook. That's all there is.
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