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Old Mar 21, '12, 1:20 pm
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As I think on this issue, as a result of the discussion here, an idea occurs to me: I think that I really should make more of a point of patronizing businesses that are closed on Sundays, and maybe even let them know that that is part of my reason for shopping there. We do have a number of local stores in my area that close on Sundays, so this is something that we could do fairly easily. I am going to give that some more thought.
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Old Mar 21, '12, 1:54 pm
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I always get a chuckle out of threads like these.

I work for our local parish. I run the gift store.

I am open two days a week. Once is during the week and the other time?????

Sunday.
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Old Mar 21, '12, 2:02 pm
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I always get a chuckle out of threads like these.

I work for our local parish. I run the gift store.

I am open two days a week. Once is during the week and the other time?????

Sunday.
Well, that makes sense to me, for a couple of reasons. For one thing, Sunday is the day when the most potential customers are there (assuming that the gift store is in or near the church). And more importantly, I assume that the parish gift store is as much a ministry as it is a money-maker, as I assume that most of the items you sell are items that help people to grow in their faith or practice their faith, right? So it makes perfect sense to me that there are good reasons for a store like that to be open on Sunday, when it can be available to people as they come to church.
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Old Mar 22, '12, 3:04 am
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I always get a chuckle out of threads like these.

I work for our local parish. I run the gift store.

I am open two days a week. Once is during the week and the other time?????

Sunday.
Chuckle for all you like,as laughter is good for your health!!

The question Jesus asked long ago was "Is it better to do good on the day of rest or to do evil?! In a sense all you are going is putting the cat amongst the pigeons;as it is a given that you are doing good and not evil in promoting pious goods.I presume all the "profits" are used for the good of the parish.In my parish,it is the St.Vincent De Paul society who reap the rewards of this activity of selling pious goods and religious books and gifts.

Actually, this raises a big question for me personally.Here where I live, the above society is registered as a charity under the name of Vinnies. Our local Vinnies store,sells donated goods and then passes the profits onto the Society ,to be used for distributing to the poor and needy.Now since it's creation this store never opened up to the general secular public on a Sunday; as it operated only during normal shopping hours.Now the decision was made by the Societies' local branch ,to trade on a Sunday also.

I have been considering of doing 15hours a week for Vinnies on a voluntery basis.However I am not convinced that they should be opening for business on this day of rest.Naturally, helping the needy,such as home visitation or distributing aide on a Sunday is a corporal work of mercy;so I have no problem there.But I am reluctant to staff this store on a Sunday(this store is not located in the Parish grounds but in a shopping centre).I just think that by opening on a Sunday for the sale of second hand goods to the general public, sends a bad message to the general public.The Salvation Army "op-shop" shuts on a Sunday,as do all the other volunter fund raising ones.

The Catholic Catechism puts aside one and a half pages to the issue that we are discussing 2184-2188 ---the last mentioned one finishes like this ""In respecting religious liberty and the common good of all,Christians should seek recognition of Sundays and the Church's holy days as legal holidays.They have to give everyone a PUBLIC EXAMPLE of prayer,respect,and joy and DEFEND their traditions as precious contribution to the SPIRITUAL LIFE of Society"--(my bold & large lettering)

I will finish with St.Augustine which 2185 quotes "The charity of truth seeks holy leasure;the necessity of charity accepts just work".

I would be interested to know what others think.Am I being too narrow in my concerns about a Vinnies shop trading on a Sunday?Secondly would others staff this centre regardless;as ultimately the "profits" goes to the needy?

Jesus told us that we will always have the poor with us, but we should firstly seek honouring God(which Sunday should do;if it is a day of worship-Mass & extra prayer,rest and joy) So is it an either -or situation? Or can we do both ,without compromising our Catholic traditions of Sunday rest?
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Old Mar 29, '12, 8:51 pm
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We are in an economic depression, and jobs are almost impossible to get. I'm at the point where I'm willing to work on Sunday to feed my family instead of being worthless, because I'm out of work so long.

If God wants me to follow the 4th commandment, and does not give me the ability to do so, who am I to pretend I can follow it?



^ doesn't seem to apply to me....the way to escape should have happened months ago....
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Old Apr 2, '12, 2:43 pm
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We are in an economic depression, and jobs are almost impossible to get. I'm at the point where I'm willing to work on Sunday to feed my family instead of being worthless, because I'm out of work so long.

If God wants me to follow the 4th commandment, and does not give me the ability to do so, who am I to pretend I can follow it?



^ doesn't seem to apply to me....the way to escape should have happened months ago....
Which is harder?

...to honor God and recall His Sabbath rest on a Sunday when you get to go to church and spend time with family and other God-fearing people.

...to honor God and recall His Sabbath rest on a Sunday when you have go to work and spend time with people who are not practicing Christians.
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Old Apr 3, '12, 5:01 pm
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Which is harder?

...to honor God and recall His Sabbath rest on a Sunday when you get to go to church and spend time with family and other God-fearing people.

...to honor God and recall His Sabbath rest on a Sunday when you have go to work and spend time with people who are not practicing Christians.

Which is harder to live with? Getting a job or not getting a job?

"You're not willing to work on Sunday, our busiest day? Well look for someone else..."
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Old Apr 8, '12, 6:10 am
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I always get a chuckle out of threads like these.

I work for our local parish. I run the gift store.

I am open two days a week. Once is during the week and the other time?????

Sunday.
Just curious, have you ever not opened on Sunday? For a decent length of time?

I don't know of a single Catholic store which is open on a Sunday in my area.
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Old Apr 8, '12, 6:25 am
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Which is harder?

...to honor God and recall His Sabbath rest on a Sunday when you get to go to church and spend time with family and other God-fearing people.

...to honor God and recall His Sabbath rest on a Sunday when you have go to work and spend time with people who are not practicing Christians.
Cat,

I'm surprised at your answer here! Maybe I interpreted your post the wrong way, but you work as a Lab Technologist! That kind of job is 24/7. While your shifts may be during the week, I know your colleagues and other health professionals aren't........am I not getting what you are saying? People need to eat and a rood over their head. Some careers/jobs must be on Sunday.
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Old Apr 9, '12, 4:13 pm
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I apologize. I definitely did not phrase my post clearly. Allow me to clarify.

I think it's easy to honor God and give witness to His Greatness in Church. It's so nice and peaceful for us to just sit there and worship Him and soak in the beauty of holiness.

But I think it's very hard to honor God and give witness to His Greatness while on the job. In a lot of jobs, Christians are teased, ridiculed, and sometimes suffer persecutions because of their faith. And often the working conditions aren't particularly pleasant, and they certainly don't make us think of God.

But what a wonderful thing when Christians who have to work on Sundays are able to overcome the difficulties and find a way to honor God and witness of Him to their co-workers and customers!

Think about it--what would happen if there were no Christians working on Sundays? How awful!

For those of us who must work on Sundays, it is up to us to be lights in a dark place. No matter where we are, we can still obey the Greatest Commandment--to love God above all else, and the Second Commandment--to love our neighbors. Jesus can use us when we work Sundays to draw others to Himself and remind them that God created the world, and that He is still in charge. We can be His agents of hope, faith, and love in a secular setting. We are His Hands and Feet, His Voice of comfort and joy, in our workplaces, especially on Sundays.
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Old Apr 9, '12, 4:22 pm
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Which is harder to live with? Getting a job or not getting a job?

"You're not willing to work on Sunday, our busiest day? Well look for someone else..."
BobCatholic, I'm sorry for giving you an unclear response.

I apparently didn't phrase my post well at all. I hope that my explanation explains what I meant to say.

I think that Christians who have to work on Sunday have been given a marvelous opportunity by God to honor Him and witness of His goodness to our co-workers and customers.

I think it's easy to sit in Church and glorify God. I think it's a lot harder for us to go to work and glorify God, but if we manage to overcome the difficulties and give honor to God on Sundays even if we are at work, God will reward us, and we will help many people to see God who otherwise wouldn't see Him.

I have worked on Sundays ever since I graduated from college. I work in a hospital, in the lab. We are open 24/7. I work on Sundays at least every third weekend, and usually every other weekend.

Both of my children work on Sundays, one in theater (plays are often done on weekends, including Sundays), and one in a hospital. Also, both of my daughters coach skating, and often competitions are held on Sundays.

When he is on call (computers), my husband works on Sunday.

I hope this clears things up, and I hope that you will find a job. I personally think that most of us really don't have much choice about working on Sunday, other than to vow that when we DO work on Sundays, we will strive to be "the Sabbath" for all our co-workers and customers and show them Jesus through our goodness and love.
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I no longer shop on Sunday, even for a meal. I do not want to be responsible for anyone having to work on Sunday.
That's a terrific suggestion! I am going to borrow it and pass it around my own circle of influence. I think at the very least, businesses that choose to be open on Sundays could at least remain closed until at least 1:00 p.m. or so in order that work would not be a barrier to those who wish to attend church. Sadly, many church people who habitually go directly from church to a restaurant for Sunday dinner directly contributes to why those businesses are open on Sundays. I'm going to follow your lead!

Back to the original post topic, if you must work then it is not a sin and is a valid reason for missing Mass. Yet, I can see how much you would like to avoid being placed in that position. I worked in a public safety profession before retiring and almost always had to work on Sunday and never felt good about it but I didn't have a choice. Like another person said, I agree that honesty is the best policy. I'd risk getting turned down before I'd omit the fact that my religious convictions would have to be considered. In your situation, if I could get a guarantee that I'd be able to be off on Sunday mornings so that I could attend church then I'd be willing to come to work in the afternoon if necessary.
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That's a terrific suggestion! I am going to borrow it and pass it around my own circle of influence. I think at the very least, businesses that choose to be open on Sundays could at least remain closed until at least 1:00 p.m. or so in order that work would not be a barrier to those who wish to attend church. Sadly, many church people who habitually go directly from church to a restaurant for Sunday dinner directly contributes to why those businesses are open on Sundays. I'm going to follow your lead!

Back to the original post topic, if you must work then it is not a sin and is a valid reason for missing Mass. Yet, I can see how much you would like to avoid being placed in that position. I worked in a public safety profession before retiring and almost always had to work on Sunday and never felt good about it but I didn't have a choice. Like another person said, I agree that honesty is the best policy. I'd risk getting turned down before I'd omit the fact that my religious convictions would have to be considered. In your situation, if I could get a guarantee that I'd be able to be off on Sunday mornings so that I could attend church then I'd be willing to come to work in the afternoon if necessary.

OTOH, a lot of people who work on Sunday are students who can't work any other time during the week due to school obligations and class schedules. They really need the money!

For that matter, anyone who works on weekends needs the money or they wouldn't be working on weekends! I know quite a few people in my age group (I'm 54) who are trying to pay off their debts by working an extra job or two on weekends.

And often, a husband and wife will arrange their schedules so that one spouse works during the week and the other on weekends, and that way, they are able to raise their own children rather than sending them to a daycare or sitter.

So by not patronizing their businesses, we're kind of hurting these industrious people, aren't we?
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I love how threads like these get so full of opinions! Haha

I will never be able to get out of working Sundays. How it might work in the future when I have to miss both Saturday and Sunday, I will have to hope for God's understanding and make it to Mass later in the week.

An an RN, I definitely think it is my duty to work these days, (even though I can't get out of it, because the shift schedule is pretty set - 2 12 hour days, 2 12 hour nights, four days off). I thought it mentioned somewhere that those who are caring for the sick have a valid reason for not attending on Sundays. If I was coming off a night shift on Sunday morning, I would just make it to the earliest Mass and go home and crash soon after. It is still difficult though, and most likely I will go spend my breaks in the chapel.
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BobCatholic, I'm sorry for giving you an unclear response.

Apology accepted.

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I apparently didn't phrase my post well at all. I hope that my explanation explains what I meant to say.
It does, and I appreciate your explanation.
 

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