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Old Apr 16, '12, 1:55 pm
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Default Mt. 6:3 in practice - deduct charitable contributions

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But when you give alms, do not let your left hand know what your right is doing, so that your almsgiving may be secret. And your Father who sees in secret will repay you.
One way I have thought of to put this into practice is to not record the amount of money I give to charity. But, seeing as it is tax season, I realized that if I do that, I would not be able to deduct anything and end up paying more in taxes. This means that I have less money, and thus can't give as much away to charities. It seems like a bit of a catch22.

I think this command is largely about avoiding self-righteousness, which can certainly be done even if you record your charitable contributions (or other good works), but surely it's easier if you don't. What do you think about this? Can you think of any other good ways to actively put this command into practice?
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Old Apr 16, '12, 2:22 pm
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One way I have thought of to put this into practice is to not record the amount of money I give to charity. But, seeing as it is tax season, I realized that if I do that, I would not be able to deduct anything and end up paying more in taxes. This means that I have less money, and thus can't give as much away to charities. It seems like a bit of a catch22.

I think this command is largely about avoiding self-righteousness, which can certainly be done even if you record your charitable contributions (or other good works), but surely it's easier if you don't. What do you think about this? Can you think of any other good ways to actively put this command into practice?
What you tell the IRS is confidential, so I do not see it as a problem.

Keeping good financial records is also a demonstration of resposibility that will allow you to better manage the resources you have.

If you are also prudent in choosing the the charities you help, I can guarantee the results will be better than what the government will do with your taxes.
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Old Apr 16, '12, 3:00 pm
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I definitely agree that giving more to the charities I choose is better than giving more to the government. I think that may swing the argument for me.
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The admonition in Mattew 6:3 is against advertising your generosity. Reporting to the IRS isn't advertising since nobody in the community will know what is on your return (unless, that is, you get arrested for tax evasion ).
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The admonition in Mattew 6:3 is against advertising your generosity. Reporting to the IRS isn't advertising since nobody in the community will know what is on your return (unless, that is, you get arrested for tax evasion ).
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I think this command is largely about avoiding self-righteousness, which can certainly be done even if you record your charitable contributions (or other good works), but surely it's easier if you don't. What do you think about this? Can you think of any other good ways to actively put this command into practice?
The government will not admire you for charitable giving, I promise, no benefit will accrue to you but possibly a bigger return. If it's significantly bigger, you can give part to charity!!!

Just don't tell people who know you personally what you give or that you give.
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Old Apr 16, '12, 7:14 pm
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So when you give to the needy, do not announce it with trumpets, as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and on the streets, to be honored by men (Matthew 6:2)

I think the point is not to broadcast the giving. God knows what you do in secret (paraphrasing Matthew 6:4)
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I took 6:1-2 to be about not advertising your generosity, but 3-4 to be more about not thinking highly of yourself for giving. And like I said in the first post, you can certainly not be self-righteous and still be aware of the good things you do. But if you honestly can't remember them very well, or at all, then you don't even have the opportunity to say to yourself "yeah, I'm awesome. I gave $XXX to charity last year!" I'm making this seem extreme here just to make the point clear.

I'm not planning on disclosing my taxes to the public (certainly not running for office), and I'm not really worried about bragging to the IRS about my deductions either. Trying to do that may backfire anyway...
 

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