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Old Apr 23, '12, 6:47 am
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Default Contraceptive Mandate--great article here!

I just read this and wanted to share it here with CAF. Here's some of it.
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The bishops did not have to take this route, but all those who cherish religious liberty should be glad they did. If the bishops settled for a more expansive accommodation, they might have been able to get an exemption for their hospitals and universities (including my own, Notre Dame). That would have been the easy way to “preserve” religious liberty while also retaining the mandate.
But what, then, would the bishops have said to business owners who likely would not have been covered by a more expansive exemption? How could church leaders say that it’s wrong for church institutions to pay for contraception and abortifacients, but that Catholic business owners must cover these costs?

The exemption approach might have allowed the bishops to secure religious liberty for their institutions, but not for all their followers. That would have been a failure of moral authority and political strength to protect the common good.
To their credit, the bishops appear to understand this and are now willing to lead the battle to preserve religious liberty for all, Catholics and non-Catholics, church institutions and private employers.
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Default Re: Contraceptive Mandate--great article here!

A link to the full article should be provided. This is a bit misleading, taken out of context because, even as the article admits (and applauds the Bishops action), it may not be without consequences.

"But it won’t be without confrontation. This statement from the bishops sets up a dramatic showdown between the leaders of the Catholic Church and the Obama administration, a confrontation that may not be good for either side. It is hard to see what middle ground exists, or even if it does."

I would prefer to find the middle ground and that was an expanded religious concience exemption that would include hospitals, universities and charities run by the Church. Though Catholics in secular institutions would have the coverage, some do now anyway. Catholics know they cannot use the coverage or risk their soul.

It's no different for those Catholics who do not work for Church faith based institutions -- some have the coverage and must follow the teachings of the Church. Afterall, not all female sterilizations are bad. Some are necessary if cancer develops in the reproductive system, and that should be covered. Contraception for contraception sake is not within Church teaching, but true medical care for a condition such as cancer should be covered.

I love the Church and I love the Constitution. There should be no reason why we should have to choose which to follow. I blame the government for attempting this mandate, but if the Justices rule on severabilility in that there is none in the whole of Obama care, this mandate falls as well. That's the solution. To begin again.

http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/...ma_640569.html
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Default Re: Contraceptive Mandate--great article here!

Wanted to add that had the government fashioned contraception as a rider with that opt in or out feature with a full religious exemption, then all faith based institutions could opt out on contraception, sterilization used to prevent pregnancy only, and the morning after pill -- while still leaving, as part of the main or original insurance policy, those conditions such as uterine and ovarian cancer to be covered procedures for cancer but not to prevent pregnancy.

Second, as there was an individual mandate forcing one to buy insurance in the first place, there should have been an individual opt out feature on contraception at the employee level. This was not rocket science, so Congress should have been able to muddle through with a good health care bill. It's the regs that are offensive and not contained in the bill. Those not using the coverage because of conscience should not have to pay for it nor should the insurance companies have to pick up the cost to provide the coverage for "free" when there are individuals who will not use contraception, vasectomies, tubal ligation or the morning after pill.

Truer words were never spoken when Pelosi said "we have to pass the bill to find out what is in it."

Pray that the Justices make the right decision and now trash the whole thing in June because it's the only reasonable solution remaining (and a "win"-"win"-"win" for everyone if this just goes away). Even after this is resolved one way or the other (I think Obamacare falls in June and the mandates with it), we should still be voicing our objections in November.
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Default Re: Contraceptive Mandate--great article here!

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A link to the full article should be provided. ...
http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/...ma_640569.html
I meant to provide that link. I also meant to post this thread in another section of CAF.
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I meant to provide that link. I also meant to post this thread in another section of CAF.
At least I got to rant. This is all a big issue with me. This should have never happened in the first place. The Church or any religion that does not support contraception or tubal ligation for contraception purposes should never be put in the position of having to negotiate with the federal government for something that is in the Constitution -- that protection for religious freedom without government interference.

I intend to remember this in November, no matter how it turns out for the Church.
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