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Old May 2, '12, 11:26 am
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To "deliver what people want" was never the job of responsible news -- people might want entertainment and to have their prejudices indulged, but the job of the news was not to do that.

Also, I think you overestimate the passive TV audience's effect on a change in programming.

Besides, Murdoch's FOX programming isn't determined by "what people want" -- it's determined by the necessary propaganda of the moment from the right wing of the Republican party
Responsible news will be delivered when people want it. As to 'passive audience's' I don't think advertisers would agree with you.

Everyone's TV comes with an OFF button so when you watch a channel it is because you want to.
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Except for the fact that this isn't unusual for Parliament. If it was Congress, you might have a case but...shock and horror...British traditions of government are different than American ones. You might disagree with the British traditions of government, but it is hard to say that MPs doing something that is not unusual for MPs to do (because British traditions of government allow for it) makes them unfit to be MPs.
Criticizing the British traditions of government is America's oldest national pastime.
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Criticizing the British traditions of government is America's oldest national pastime.
Thank God we only criticize them now. We used to take a much stronger stance.....
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They're not 'government officials'.
A member of a State’s parliament is obviously a government official in the broad sense of the term. I'm curious, is it the word "government" or "officials" that these MPs do not meet a narrower, technical British definition of? Or both?

I'm guessing "government", in the narrow sense of a Prime Minister and Cabinet in a parliamentary system, though I never can tell if the rest of the members of the dominant party (or coalition, in this case) also count as being part of the "government" in this sense of the word.
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A member of a State’s parliament is obviously a government official in the broad sense of the term. I'm curious, is it the word "government" or "officials" that these MPs do not meet a narrower, technical British definition of? Or both?

I'm guessing "government", in the narrow sense of a Prime Minister and Cabinet in a parliamentary system, though I never can tell if the rest of the members of the dominant party (or coalition, in this case) also count as being part of the "government" in this sense of the word.
A 'Government Official' would be a member of the Civil Service, ie an employee of one or another of the Departments (Ministries) of State (including the Treasury, Foreign Office). A member of the Government would be an appointed politician (Secretary, Minister, Junior Minister), not a Government employee ie, not a 'Government Official'.

None of the MPs of the Governing Party/ies would be a 'Government Official'.
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Thank God we only criticize them now. We used to take a much stronger stance.....
Some of us pray for the day when we will gain Independence.
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Some of us pray for the day when we will gain Independence.
The only way the world will be free and see justice is when we break the backs of the international banking cartels.
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The only way the world will be free and see justice is when we break the backs of the international banking cartels.
Why only the Casino side of Oligarchy?
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Why only the Casino side of Oligarchy?
Money = Power. World politics is a pay-to-play scheme.
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But why only the Casino side of the business?
Because it is the side that matters.
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The only way the world will be free and see justice is when we break the backs of the international banking cartels.
Good luck. It's like fighting the Borg.
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Good luck. It's like fighting the Borg.
Well, it is going to break itself up when hyperinflation hits on a global scale and people really begin to understand the value of sound money.
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I'm also inclined to agree, but the thought of government officials seeing it as their role to decide who is "fit" to run a private company and who is not makes me a little uneasy.
Arguably a private company which abused and invaded private citizens' lives and in so doing considered itself above the law, the common man is obliged to follow. The head of this organisation then pleads ignorance - so either he is incompetent to run a company or he is purposefully lying - this seems to me to be their line of thinking.

On the other hand it's obvious that this is payback against Murdoch for his political activism. His organisation is hardly the only one which used dirty tactics.
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