Authority in Catholicism and Protestantism..

[pablope]

Originally Posted by Lincoln7

Pablope,

I have read it. I'm unsure how his disagreements with Calvin as a man therefore mean his doctrine is untrue? or how it somehow demonstrates the early church of Rome had a monarchial bishop and not a multiplicity of elders until the mid second century at least?

And of course I have yet to go through the article and actually test what it says.

Lincs.

Hi, Lincs....


Anders did not have disagreements with Calvin...this is what he wrote.....Strangely, mastering Calvin didn’t lead me anywhere I expected............But more importantly, I discovered that Calvin upset my Evangelical view of history........... The more I studied Calvin, however, the more foreign he seemed, the less like Protestants today......... Calvin shocked me by rejecting key elements of my Evangelical tradition. Born-again spirituality, private interpretation of Scripture, a broad-minded approach to denominations – Calvin opposed them all. I discovered that his concerns were vastly different, more institutional, even more Catholic.........How could my Church claim Calvin as a founder, and yet stray so far from his views?


So...Linc...if you have tested it...do you agree with his findings?


On the issue of authority.......you keep objecting to a papacy...as unbiblical and a modern development....well, how about the Consistory that calvin established in Geneva?

My question to you....where did Calvin get the authority to establish his Consistory in Geneva? And the authority he exercised there?

Is it Biblical? Where is the Biblical basis for it?

If it is unbiblical...would you then also conclude that what Calvin exercised is unbiblical...and his teachings that flowed from his exercise of authority is also unbiblical?


Calvin’s Institutes would eventually be declared official doctrine.........so who declared them official doctrine? I deduce from the article it was the secular authorities of Geneva, not any church......so would you agree that this is an unbiblical action?


Calvin’s lifelong goal was to gain the right to excommunicate “unworthy” Church members. The city council finally granted this power in 1555 when French immigration and local scandal tipped the electorate in his favor

So Calvin's excommunications flowed, not from Church authority, but from the City council of Geneva....so this is an innovation, correct?