Georgetown University invites Kathleen Sebelius to speak at commencement

[Pfaffenhoffen]

Originally Posted by Kasama

Georgetown University invites Kathleen Sebelius to give commencement address

The Catholic university at the center of the HHS mandate controversy has invited the mandate’s sponsor and chief Catholic advocate to address graduates who plan on going into politics.

Georgetown University, an historically Jesuit institution, has announced it is inviting Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius to address the commencement of the Georgetown Public Policy Institute on Friday, May 18.

The invitation of the militantly pro-abortion Catholic is buried as the next-to-the last announcement on its list of speakers.

Controversy has engulfed the campus since an alumna, Sandra Fluke, became an outspoken advocate for the HHS mandate.

Sebelius admitted before Congress last week that she had not consulted any Supreme Court decision on religious liberty before promulgating the HHS mandate requiring religious institutions to fund contraception, sterilization, and abortifacient drugs without a co-pay in their health plans.

In addition to her role as chief enforcer of the controversial edict, Sebelius had a lengthy history as a pro-abortion governor of Kansas.

The Cardinal Newman Society, a Catholic educational watchdog organization, has posted a petition opposing Sebelius’ speech on the website GeorgetownScandal.com. The measure asks university president John J. DeGioia to “withdraw the invitation to Secretary Sebelius immediately.”

“It is scandalous and outrageous that America’s oldest Catholic and Jesuit university has elected to provide this prestigious platform to a publicly ‘pro-choice’ Catholic who is most responsible for the Obama administration’s effort to restrict the Constitution’s first freedom—the right to free exercise of religion—while threatening the survival of many Catholic and other religious colleges and universities, schools, charities, hospitals and other apostolates,” it states. “Georgetown insults all Americans by this honor. The selection is especially insulting to faithful Catholics and their bishops, who are engaged in the fight for religious liberty and against abortion.”

What is a Catholic pro-abortionist?

[DaddyGirl]

I assume you think...this is a bad thing? To have this person speak? Or are you posting it to support her?

[bmullins]

I think a vast majority of practicing Catholics would indeed think this a bad thing. It gives a false impression that the Catholic institution supports the HHS mandate, which also gives an impression that Catholics do in general (which is not the case.)

[Ecoclimber]

This is a duplicate thread and the moderator should merge them.

Blessings to all,

[Megan7]

Originally Posted by Kasama

Georgetown University invites Kathleen Sebelius to give commencement address

The Catholic university at the center of the HHS mandate controversy has invited the mandate’s sponsor and chief Catholic advocate to address graduates who plan on going into politics.

Georgetown University, an historically Jesuit institution, has announced it is inviting Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius to address the commencement of the Georgetown Public Policy Institute on Friday, May 18.

The invitation of the militantly pro-abortion Catholic is buried as the next-to-the last announcement on its list of speakers.

Controversy has engulfed the campus since an alumna, Sandra Fluke, became an outspoken advocate for the HHS mandate.

Sebelius admitted before Congress last week that she had not consulted any Supreme Court decision on religious liberty before promulgating the HHS mandate requiring religious institutions to fund contraception, sterilization, and abortifacient drugs without a co-pay in their health plans.

In addition to her role as chief enforcer of the controversial edict, Sebelius had a lengthy history as a pro-abortion governor of Kansas.

The Cardinal Newman Society, a Catholic educational watchdog organization, has posted a petition opposing Sebelius’ speech on the website GeorgetownScandal.com. The measure asks university president John J. DeGioia to “withdraw the invitation to Secretary Sebelius immediately.”

“It is scandalous and outrageous that America’s oldest Catholic and Jesuit university has elected to provide this prestigious platform to a publicly ‘pro-choice’ Catholic who is most responsible for the Obama administration’s effort to restrict the Constitution’s first freedom—the right to free exercise of religion—while threatening the survival of many Catholic and other religious colleges and universities, schools, charities, hospitals and other apostolates,” it states. “Georgetown insults all Americans by this honor. The selection is especially insulting to faithful Catholics and their bishops, who are engaged in the fight for religious liberty and against abortion.”

Thanks for posting this, sad....

[baylee]

All I can muster is...this is disgusting.
When will this sort of embarrassment stop?

[Kasama]

Originally Posted by Megan7

Thanks for posting this, sad....

It seems like Catholic Colleges are going out of their way to put pro-abortion Catholics on a pedestal. Like how Notre Dame University honored the most pro-abortion President in American history, while vigorously persecuting Pro-Lifers praying the Rosary on campus for two years. Like Mount Saint Vincent’s Catholic University allowing a liberal professor to teach a sexology course referring to a naked pornographic picture of the Virgin Mary, entitled “The Liberation of Mary”.

Society goes out of its way to praise dissident pro-abortion Catholics such as Joe Biden, Ted Kennedy, John Kerry and Nancy Pelosi. I think they do this to break up the Catholic vote. There are 67 million Catholics in the USA, but 51 million votes needed to elect a US President. If all Catholics voted Pro-Life, there wouldn't be a single pro-death politician. Pro-death advocates need to keep us divided.

[JReducation]

Originally Posted by baylee

All I can muster is...this is disgusting.
When will this sort of embarrassment stop?

I have always said, "If it's not one thing, it's another." The human condition does not go away. We just replace one problem with another. We deal with it as best we can and we move along.

You may want to take lessons from people like St. Francis, St. Teresa of Avila and Bl. Mother Teresa. They never lost sleep over any of these things. They observed, answered questions, tried to lead by example and slept very soundly. Why? Because they focused on what was directly in front of them. Thomas a Kempis wrote in the Imitation of Christ, not to make someone else's moral problems your own, because yours far surpass those of the person whom you're observing.

I believe this was the rule that guided Francis of Assisi, Teresa of Avila and Teresa of Calcutta. That's why they radiated such peace. It was that sense of peace and disciplined focus on the task at hand that made them the most followed leaders in Catholic history. More people follow Francis and the two Teresa's than any other saint. They are masters of inner silence, peace, holy indifference and detachment from everything around them. They had their plate full with their own obligations.

Fraternally,

Br. JR, FFV

[Dirt]

In my humble opinion, it is time to bring back the "Anathema". It is time for our Bishops to roll up their sleeves and start issuing PUBLIC Excommunications to these individuals and institutions. Just today V.P. Joseph Biden was on a morning news program condoning homosexual relations and marriage. Yet he will Publicly profess his Catholic upbringing at every opportunity. These people and institutions are creating Public Scandal, and should be Excommunicated Publicly. Out Loud! For all to see! Then we can Pray for their Public recanting of these false ideologies and welcome them back to the Body of Christ!

Like This:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NRt2cKvJLlE

[JReducation]

Originally Posted by Dirt

In my humble opinion, it is time to bring back the "Anathema". It is time for our Bishops to roll up their sleeves and start issuing PUBLIC Excommunications to these individuals and institutions. Just today V.P. Joseph Biden was on a morning news program condoning homosexual relations and marriage. Yet he will Publicly profess his Catholic upbringing at every opportunity. These people and institutions are creating Public Scandal, and should be Excommunicated Publicly. Out Loud! For all to see! Then we can Pray for their Public recanting of these false ideologies and welcome them back to the Body of Christ!

Like This:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NRt2cKvJLlE

You can't excommunicate someone unless they commit an excommunicable offense. None of these things are strong enough causes for excommunication. Any bishop who attempts to do so will find the pope unwilling to uphold the excommunication. To excommunicate you have to violate one of the seven laws in Canon Law that carry an excommunication or you have to offend the bishop or the pope directly. These are not offenses against the bishop or the pope. They are certainly inappropriate positions that Catholics should never take, but not enough to put them outside of the institutional Church. We have to be careful not to use excommunication as a punishment. It was never meant to be a punishment. It was always meant to be a medicine for the benefit of the person. According the Catholic theology they have not ceased to be members of the Mystical Body. They are not apostates.

The Church rarely subscribes to public excommunication, because of the glee that it triggers in some people. That does just as much harm to the soul as the actions of these individuals.

Fraternally,

Br. JR, FFV

[Dirt]

Originally Posted by JReducation

You can't excommunicate someone unless they commit an excommunicable offense. None of these things are strong enough causes for excommunication. Any bishop who attempts to do so will find the pope unwilling to uphold the excommunication. To excommunicate you have to violate one of the seven laws in Canon Law that carry an excommunication or you have to offend the bishop or the pope directly. These are not offenses against the bishop or the pope. They are certainly inappropriate positions that Catholics should never take, but not enough to put them outside of the institutional Church. We have to be careful not to use excommunication as a punishment. It was never meant to be a punishment. It was always meant to be a medicine for the benefit of the person. According the Catholic theology they have not ceased to be members of the Mystical Body. They are not apostates.

The Church rarely subscribes to public excommunication, because of the glee that it triggers in some people. That does just as much harm to the soul as the actions of these individuals.

Fraternally,

Br. JR, FFV

Brother, does espousing and promoting a teaching or teachings in direct contradiction to the Dogmas and teachings of the Magesterium not rise to the level of Excommunication? i.e. promoting abortion, promoting homosexual activity as normal, promoting homosexual marriage as a right, promoting contraception as morally right and funding such through public monies? Can one remain a Catholic in good standing and espouse these ideals? What of Latae sententiae?

[JReducation]

Originally Posted by Dirt

Brother, does espousing and promoting a teaching or teachings in direct contradiction to the Dogmas and teachings of the Magesterium not rise to the level of Excommunication? i.e. promoting abortion, promoting homosexual activity as normal, promoting homosexual marriage as a right, promoting contraception as morally right and funding such through public monies? Can one remain a Catholic in good standing and espouse these ideals? What of Latae sententiae?

No, not at all. The laws that govern excommunication are for very specific violations. Heresy is a tricky one. Subscribing to certain heretical ideas is not enough. I'm not sure where the Church actually draws the line, because the canon is not clear.

One certainly remains a Catholic, but I would not say in good standing. I would describe the relationship with the Church as irregular.

There are only seven infractions that carry a penalty of excommunication. That does not mean that the Holy Father cannot excommunicate for other things that are not in the canons. It's been done in the past. The bishops cannot create reasons for excommunicating. Only the pope can do that.

I hope this helps.

Fraternally,

Br. JR, FFV

[Trader]

Secretary Sebelius needs to make her next statement to the Church privately, in the confessional.

[JimG]

Perhaps to sort of return the favor, Ms. Sebelius might invite Cardinal Dolan to speak to the HHS employees.

[_Abyssinia]

Kathleen Sebelius has been asked not to approach for Communion by Bishop Joseph Naumann and Archbishop Raymond Burke has also said she should not approach for Communion in Washington:

http://www.usnews.com/news/blogs/god...-to-washington