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Old May 4, '12, 3:00 pm
Rockie01 Rockie01 is offline
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Default Re: Pro-Marriage Activists Attacked by Gay Marriage Supporters

I can't believe anyone is actually arguing this point. The corrupt society may change man's law to try to appease those who insist that they must be married "just like" men and women get married. Marriage is a sacrament, a blessed covenant between a man and a woman. All the so-called intellectual argument in the world will not change that. I say there are enough religions outside the catholic church that support non-traditional unions, that would openly welcome those who oppose the tradition of marriage. I wouldn't muddy the waters with an open debate.
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Old May 6, '12, 6:08 pm
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Default Re: Pro-Marriage Activists Attacked by Gay Marriage Supporters

I guess I'm on the young side on this forum. I have a tumblr account (social media) and there's one account called TeaPartyJesus. Odd thing is, I thought it was an account to promote the word of the Bible in a witty way that stands up against the liberal attitudes that is popular in the States, but it turned out to be the complete opposite. I no longer subscribe to that account since I had enough of its mocking, and twisting, of the words of the Bible that people spoke. It was downright despicable.

On another account that I follow (you can "follow" certain accounts like twitter) and this was one of the latest posts entitled "slippery slope":

http://survivingtheworld.net/Lesson903.html

The man pictured is Dr. Shepherd. He holds a Phd in Engineering.


As he says:
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Letís get to debating it rationally so we can get to the joyful inevitable sooner.
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I'd actually written and prepped most of this comic before Maryland held its debate on the gay marriage bill on Friday, but considering how it turned out (and considering I'm currently living here), it feels appropriate to get this one posted today.

There were a lot of positives that could be taken out of the debate, even by those of us who supported it and even though it failed. First, when I was listening to the debate, there were very few people planning on voting against it who got up and spoke. Secondly, those who did often did not cite religious arguments - considering this is a country founded on freedom of religion, that's certainly a factor to take some comfort in. Thirdly, there were a number of people who spoke in favor of the bill who recognized they would take heat from their family and constituents for their vote - and they didn't care.

Look, some day, everyone is going to have to look back on this issue and explain to the youth of the future why it took us so frickin' long. And certainly, we can blame some of it on organizations like NOM, whose published talking points provided some of the initial slippery slope arguments in the flowchart. In the meantime, though? We can have rational arguments about it from opposing sides. And slippery slope arguments? THEY DON'T HOLD UP. Yes, some of the arguments above are ridiculous, but some of them? Shouldn't there be answers to them, too? Like one delegate said during the debate the other day: "Some people say if this bill passes, I will someday be able to marry a toaster, an android, or a cat. (This argument) sickens me." Because that argument completely ignores the perfectly fine counterpoint regarding consent. And such counterpoints are certainly not worse than the pro-sanctity-of-marriage counterpoints against divorce, right?

In the meantime, I'm going to take heart in the speech on Friday by delegate Anne Healey (paraphrased): "I am going to make many constituents, friends and family who supported me for years disappointed in me. But I have not heard one legislative argument against this bill. I believe I must vote (for this bill)." Gay marriage for everyone will happen someday soon. Let's get to debating it rationally so we can get to that day sooner. . - Agreed

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Old May 6, '12, 6:24 pm
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Default Re: Pro-Marriage Activists Attacked by Gay Marriage Supporters

You didn't notice that these are all strawmans?
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Old May 6, '12, 6:31 pm
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Default Re: Pro-Marriage Activists Attacked by Gay Marriage Supporters

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You didn't notice that these are all strawmans?

I noticed, but what I'm trying to point out is that social media has a hand into how the secular world, or at least those in favor of gay marriage, use to fuel their argument. The Professor's post is deeply flawed and short-sighted, but make no doubt that people who favor that picture will just grow more egotistical about the "inevitable."
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