Intelligent life in outer space?

[tonyrey]

Originally Posted by Gaber

I completely agree, both with the welcome and with the idea of de-limiting
God from our concepts.

That makes at least two of us!

[Jacob18]

I vote no because it seems improbable. If there were I would not be totally shocked, though, because an infinite God, obviously, is not limited to only making one planet with intelligent life.

[kentcara2003]

"I completely agree, both with the welcome and with the idea of de-limiting
God from our concepts.
Welcome to the forum! I don't believe we are justified in imposing limits on what God creates - either in this universe or in any other realm."

Thanks for the welcome. Could you give me an idea how you do the copying. I just copy and paste your replies for want of a better way!

Just to clarify....I am not imposing limits on God at all. I agree there is no limiting Him....But my SPECULATION is that in honour of the 2nd person of the Holy Trinity, man is the highest visible creation.... and angels are a class above man objectively and in them God has fulfilled the display of His immense power sufficiently.

It is only a speculation...
.Just as there is no limiting God, He has , in becoming man in Christ Jesus... limited Himself in time for love of man....He didnt have to .....but He did......

My proposal is that He can decree that the human race as the highest visible creation and the angels as the highest invisible creation....IF HE SO CHOOSES.......THOUGH NOT NECESSARILY SO AS ONLY IN ETERNITY CAN IT BE ANSWERED OR IF WE MEET A REAL E.T.!!!!
God bless,
Kentcara2003

[Gaber]

Originally Posted by kentcara2003

"I completely agree, both with the welcome and with the idea of de-limiting
God from our concepts.
Welcome to the forum! I don't believe we are justified in imposing limits on what God creates - either in this universe or in any other realm."

Thanks for the welcome. Could you give me an idea how you do the copying. I just copy and paste your replies for want of a better way!

Just to clarify....I am not imposing limits on God at all. I agree there is no limiting Him....But my SPECULATION is that in honour of the 2nd person of the Holy Trinity, man is the highest visible creation.... and angels are a class above man objectively and in them God has fulfilled the display of His immense power sufficiently.

It is only a speculation...
.Just as there is no limiting God, He has , in becoming man in Christ Jesus... limited Himself in time for love of man....He didnt have to .....but He did......

My proposal is that He can decree that the human race as the highest visible creation and the angels as the highest invisible creation....IF HE SO CHOOSES.......THOUGH NOT NECESSARILY SO AS ONLY IN ETERNITY CAN IT BE ANSWERED OR IF WE MEET A REAL E.T.!!!!
God bless,
Kentcara2003

Click on the little box tab in the lower right corner of any post, the one that says Qupte. That opens a widow with that person's post between a [ QUOTE ] and a [ /QUOTE ] (I added spaces so it wouldn't actually do it,) Then you can subdevide that by either inserting one of those appropriately, or by highliting some text and clicking on the little yellow conversation thing between the mountain scene and the hashtag. Ithink there is a tutorial somewhere on posting. Check it out and play, or just post and speculate about the buttons up there!

It is fun to speculate. I think, for my part, I'd rather meet REALITY then a REAL E.T. But hey, the real ET might have a better handle on Rality, lol!

[vera dicere]

Absolutely.

Of course, I'm inclined to think they're of equal or lesser advancement than us. Becuase if they were super advanced they'd be able to find us sooner then we could them, and that might not be the kind of visit we want.

But yeah, its a big universe. I dont' think humanity will find other intelligent life for probably hundreds of years. And if we do find them, I hope they're equal to us in the arms race, Its bad enough we massacre our own species when people want more land, I'd hate to think it'd happened to some poor green guy and his tentacled family.

[Gaber]

Originally Posted by vera dicere

Absolutely.

Of course, I'm inclined to think they're of equal or lesser advancement than us. Becuase if they were super advanced they'd be able to find us sooner then we could them, and that might not be the kind of visit we want.

But yeah, its a big universe. I dont' think humanity will find other intelligent life for probably hundreds of years. And if we do find them, I hope they're equal to us in the arms race, Its bad enough we massacre our own species when people want more land, I'd hate to think it'd happened to some poor green guy and his tentacled family.

I found the reports of transmissions in which anomalies were found by our astronauts on the moon to be of particular interest. Especially the part where there was a number of ships lined up watching them. That's one I've heard from several directions, including an acquaintance of one of the arstronauts. And of course, there is the possibility that "they" are "us," one way or another. Ever read Saucer by Stephen Coonts? Kind of a fasciinating idea behind that as to our history.

[kentcara2003]

Originally Posted by TheRealJuliane

If God had made some other life form, why wouldn't he have told us about it?

Also, since He died for everyone, wouldn't that imply that if he HAD created other life, they would need a Savior too?

I think the Other Intelligent Life theories came from people who had no relationship to the One True God.

God doesnt need to tell us if he had created other life forms, does he?
Just as He did reveal He is Father, Son and Holy Spirit...His choice and His freedom to do so.

He died for every human person because of the Fall.It doesnt imply that this redemption has to be applied for other life forms if the economy of salvation is different or if there is a need for redemption....

Not necessarily that this theory comes from such people....I have a relationship with Christ our Lord but that doesnt mean I cannot think about such things and mull over them and propose and speculate about it.....

It is open to speculation.....

[Jacob18]

Originally Posted by vera dicere

Absolutely.

Of course, I'm inclined to think they're of equal or lesser advancement than us. Becuase if they were super advanced they'd be able to find us sooner then we could them, and that might not be the kind of visit we want.

But yeah, its a big universe. I dont' think humanity will find other intelligent life for probably hundreds of years. And if we do find them, I hope they're equal to us in the arms race, Its bad enough we massacre our own species when people want more land, I'd hate to think it'd happened to some poor green guy and his tentacled family.

I do not know if you all have ever seen the show Ancient Aliens from the History Channel...
But they would try to convince you that much of Christianity is due to aliens.








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[Gaber]

Originally Posted by Jacob18

I do not know if you all have ever seen the show Ancient Aliens from the History Channel...
But they would try to convince you that much of Christianity is due to aliens

.I've seen some of those shows. I got the impression simply that some few pieces of art with Christian themes,as well as some few of many other cultures, included what might be interpreted as depictions of "flying saucers." And yes, there is someone who theorized that Jesus or other fgures of note might be aliens. Perhaps you protest too much? The way you put it, Jacob, makes me think of how some problems universal to everyone everywhere are often depicted by say Cosmopolitan as being specific to svelt, attractive women depicted in Hollywood/Paris styles. In fact, many on here seem to depict some problems as specific only to Catholics, or make them problems because they are Catholics, when in fact they are problems of a more universal nature. You get what I'm saying.

[empther]

Jacob,
Re your Middle Ages art in post 38

A couple of years ago I was standing outside at night and saw a large meteor crossing the sky. It was going left to right at about 20 degrees from the horizontal. Pieces were breaking off and flaming out. This thing must have been gigantic. Since these things travel 20 miles a second, triple Earth's escape velocity, it likely skipped off the atmosphere and headed back out to space.

It looked very much like that 'spaceship' in the bottom picture.

If a similar meteor were coming straight at you instead of sideways to you, it might look a lot like the 'flying saucer' over the Virgin's shoulder.

One can imagine what the Middle Ages painters were thinking about that. They could think of it as some Heavenly manifestation, with an angel inside the thing bearing a message to Earth, not necessarily an alien from Vulcan.

[perro sarnoso]

Ah, the Great delusion.

Jesus- true God and true man.........exalted our human nature by becoming one of us.

Live 33 years among us...suffered died and was buried. On the third day He rose again and ascended into heaven and will come again in glory.

The "philosophy" of "life out there" is a ploy of the devil. A great delusion of Lucifer and his cohorts here on earth.

It is the means by which governments (yes, including ours) will establish martial law/ state of siege. A false invader- a false enemy, under which we should "unite" or hand our liberties and rights to the government - freely to save us from the "aliens".

It is a lie. There are no "advanced civilizations" or "alien races" or " space brotherhood" or "federation of planets of galactic beings".

It is a lie- the "ascended masters" of which the New Age movement says Jesus is just one of them. It is a lie.

Wake up and smell the oil of annointing!!

[Godmachine]

I must say I am actually rather surprised at the results of this poll so far. I would have thought more people would be open to the idea of other intelligent life out there. I guess I was wrong.

[jsaldar]

Nope,,Just look at us!!!

[Godmachine]

Originally Posted by jsaldar

Nope,,Just look at us!!!

HA!!! Good point.

[Holly3278]

I personally don't believe there is intelligent life out there in the universe. There may be life but I don't think there is sentient or intelligent life that has an immortal soul like ours. If anything, we may find some bacteria or something on another planet some day.