What Christian Denominations Support Gay Marriage?

[TheRealJuliane]

Originally Posted by PumpkinSeed

What is their reason for supporting gay marriage? just curious

Usually it's the "God loves everyone and wants everyone to be happy" philosophy. Sometimes they say that Jesus never mentioned homosexuality, and that Jesus loved everyone the same. They ignore the OT, of course, and the Gospels that speak of men's depravity. It's focused on human's "right" to be happy while on earth.

[wondrousgnat]

Haven't read all the posts but I will post this: There is a difference between which ones support and which ones do not oppose?

Sort of like abortions. Which support them and which do not take a stand opposing them. Although here a church wedding might force some churches into a position.

[Nicea325]

Originally Posted by Kyrie eleison 9

Nancy Pelosi supports it and VP Joe Biden supports "gay marriage"; both "Catholics."

Catholics only when it is convenient for them.

[Nicea325]

Originally Posted by TheRealJuliane

Wrong. American Episcopalians have support for gay marriage, they elected a gay man as a Bishop. That among other issues has caused a split in the Episcopalian Church, with one result being some Episcopalian churches coming into communion with the Roman Catholic Church.

Unitarians have no problem with same sex marriage.

Some Methodists and some Lutherans, depending upon their Conference, are also find with same sex marriage and homosexuality.

Generally, the less actual sin is stressed, and the more "human rights" is stressed within a denomination, the more they will accept the ideology of same sex marriage.

Yep! Lets push an agenda over God! Truly sad!

[Conor7]

Originally Posted by The Holy War 11

Lutherans are very conservative aren't they? I'm pretty sure they're against it. I think Anglicans are for it, and I know Episcopalions are for it. Episcopals are VERY liberal, and they have a lot of hate for the Catholic Church.

Episcopalians have no hatred toward the Catholic Church.

[CMatt25]

Originally Posted by exnihilo

I'm not an expert but I think your list is a good one of what denominations do not condemn homosexuality but rather support it. I'm not sure it is fair to say they support gay marriage, though I'm sure they will soon enough.

The UCC does support gay marriage. The Episcopal Church has performed gay marriages but I'm not sure that is an official positions yet. I do know they are working on a same sex union rite that may be approved this Summer.

To your list of gay supporting churches we can add the PCUSA (Presbyterian). And about the United Methodists I would point out they just rejected changing their position against homosexuality at their convention. But I think this is due more to the fact that the church outside of America, particularly in Africa, has grown and has more votes these days. The American segment of the UMC probably would have affirmed homosexuality. I'd point out that for many Mainline Protestant churches their more recent heathen converts are actually holding fast to orthodoxy while the American church goes insane.

I think this is a reasonable post from what I have been able to gather. Other than I have no idea about the heathens and the American church going insane.

[CMatt25]

Originally Posted by anp1215

Yes I forgot about the PCUSA. I thought about including the Unitarian Universalists, but despite some Christian heritage, I don't think they are really considered Christian anymore.

I once saw a stat that 90% no longer identify solely as Christians.

[anp1215]

Originally Posted by CMatt25

I once saw a stat that 90% no longer identify solely as Christians.

Yeah, they kind of borrow stuff from lots of different religions and most don't call themselves Christians, so I didn't include them on my list.

[CMatt25]

Originally Posted by Conor7

Episcopalians have no hatred toward the Catholic Church.

I'm not Episcopalian and even I knew that.

[CMatt25]

Originally Posted by PJM

Excuse me for asking but are Not "Christians" and supporters of Homosexuals and their
"unity" [I can't call it the M word... ] contradictory terms and idealogies? IMO they cannot co-exist.

pat/PJM

No being Christian and supporting homosexuals is not necesarily contradictory. See my earlier post with an explanation. Just because you do not agree does not mean they are not Christians. They are indeed Christians. Just with different interpretations than what you have about homosexuality and Scripture. You don't have to agree with them. But Catholics and others sure seem to want others to be respectful and tolerant of their beliefs. I'm sure others would like to see the reverse be true as well. In addition the last I checked your church recognized many of these Protestant denominations we are talking about as being Christians.

[Wiljo2050]

Originally Posted by peace2u2

Can you tell me what Christian denominations support homosexuality, gay marriage and the adoption of children in a SSM?

Also, do the ministers of these Christian denominations have Bibles that omit God's Word regarding same and if not than how do they justify homosexuality if they read God's Word that says they should not?

Thanks.

[ltwin]

Originally Posted by wondrousgnat

Haven't read all the posts but I will post this: There is a difference between which ones support and which ones do not oppose?

Sort of like abortions. Which support them and which do not take a stand opposing them. Although here a church wedding might force some churches into a position.

The Episcopal Church definitely supports it:

The 2006, General Convention affirmed "support of gay and lesbian persons as children of God"; calls on legislatures to provide protections such as bereavement and family leave policies; and opposes any state or federal constitutional amendment that prohibits same-sex civil marriages or civil unions."[103]

The 2009, General Convention affirmed that "gays and lesbians (that are) in lifelong committed relationships," should be ordained, saying that "God has called and may call such individuals to any ordained ministry in the Episcopal Church."[104] The Convention also voted to allow bishops to decide whether or not to bless same-sex marriages.[105]

[see Wikipedia]

Though its worth pointing out that many conservative Episcopal dioceses, congregations, and individuals have left the Episcopal Church over the issue. The Episcopal Church is in a process of approving a rite of blessing for same sex unions.

The Presbyterian Church (USA) has removed restrictions on the sexual behavior of its ministers, thus making it possible for presbyteries to ordain noncelibate homosexuals if they so choose. Liberal Presbyterians are also expected to push for permission to bless same sex unions and marriages this year (see this New York Times article).

The New York Times article also said this:

The Presbyterian Church (U.S.A.) now joins a growing bloc of historic, mainline Protestant churches that have voted to accept gay clergy members and church leaders — a bloc that includes the United Church of Christ, the Evangelical Lutheran Church in America and the Episcopal Church. (The largest mainline Protestant denomination, the United Methodist Church, is still fighting over the issue).

[Wiljo2050]

Peace would never challenge your beliefs!The question I ask what if protestants who disagree with catholic doctrine would come out with banning catholic marriage?What if you didnt believe in mixed race marriage does this give you the right to legislate against it?What about someone that started a business created many jobs but hated religion,should we shut his business down for his unbelief?What about a muslim gets beat up for her faith by a proffesing christian,should we legislate against christians?What about Atheists should we legislate against them?What about hitler calling Jews robbers,and Christ killers?Are not most people followers of what they are born with?Were do we draw the line?Can we disagree and coexist?Can we hang on to are beliefs and respect those that have differnces with us?

[ltwin]

Originally Posted by Wiljo2050

Peace would never challenge your beliefs!The question I ask what if protestants who disagree with catholic doctrine would come out with banning catholic marriage?What if you didnt believe in mixed race marriage does this give you the right to legislate against it?What about someone that started a business created many jobs but hated religion,should we shut his business down for his unbelief?What about a muslim gets beat up for her faith by a proffesing christian,should we legislate against christians?What about Atheists should we legislate against them?What about hitler calling Jews robbers,and Christ killers?Are not most people followers of what they are born with?Were do we draw the line?Can we disagree and coexist?Can we hang on to are beliefs and respect those that have differnces with us?

This really isn't about respecting differences. No one is saying that you can't have sex with someone of the same gender if you want. This is a free country. But don't ask us to call something holy that God has called sinful. Most Christians are simply trying to stay faithful to scripture and the received tradition of the church. Both are clear: homosexual acts are sinful. Those who are tempted by homosexual desires must do what all Christians are expected to do: live lives of chastity in singleness and faithfulness in marriage. The majority of Christians continue to adhere to what marriage was always believed to be. There are some Christians, following secular culture, who now wish to change the definition of marriage. They are wrong for doing so.

It is not "respecting differences" and "coexisting" with homosexuals to tell them that God is pleased by their sin. If we love all people, then we should be honest with them: man is sinful and our sin separates us from God. It is only through the grace and forgiveness offered to us by Christ that any of us can be saved. Homosexual actions, just as heterosexual actions committed outside of the bonds of holy matrimony, are sinful acts. To deny that reality is to lie to anyone and everyone who struggles with such desires. Ultimately, we are enabling them to continue in sin, separate from God. How is that love? How is that respect? How is that coexisting?

[PRmerger]

Originally Posted by ltwin

This really isn't about respecting differences. No one is saying that you can't have sex with someone of the same gender if you want. This is a free country. But don't ask us to call something holy that God has called sinful. Most Christians are simply trying to stay faithful to scripture and the received tradition of the church. Both are clear: homosexual acts are sinful. Those who are tempted by homosexual desires must do what all Christians are expected to do: live lives of chastity in singleness and faithfulness in marriage. The majority of Christians continue to adhere to what marriage was always believed to be. There are some Christians, following secular culture, who now wish to change the definition of marriage. They are wrong for doing so.

It is not "respecting differences" and "coexisting" with homosexuals to tell them that God is pleased by their sin. If we love all people, then we should be honest with them: man is sinful and our sin separates us from God. It is only through the grace and forgiveness offered to us by Christ that any of us can be saved. Homosexual actions, just as heterosexual actions committed outside of the bonds of holy matrimony, are sinful acts. To deny that reality is to lie to anyone and everyone who struggles with such desires. Ultimately, we are enabling them to continue in sin, separate from God. How is that love? How is that respect? How is that coexisting?

This ^^ .