Anyone interested in Prometheus?

[colliric]

Originally Posted by CGDouglas

I thought the 3rd, despite all it's short-comings due to Fox's interference, was somewhat decent. The fourth was just awful though. AvP was originally a comic, to game, to movie. The Alien species was much better than the Predator. Movies based off of computer games are always rubbish. Silent Hill and Resident Evil especially.

The much longer Director's Cut is much better than the original version, although it still suffers from the dreaded "third film in a trilogy" curse.... I still think Alien 3 has one of the most exciting and well directed opening sequences from the entire series(even if it doesn't really make sense that they didn't detect the queen's egg on the ship before taking off). Would have been even cooler if you didn't see the facehugger shot in my opinion, and the audience was left to wonder what caused the "emergency evacuation".....

While the second film emphasises upon Ripley's desire to save Newt. What I loved about the third is Ripley, being offered life, desires to sacrifice to the species could be ended. Until the fourth movie. Does one need to say that is even canonical?

I enjoyed the Fourth film better than the 3rd, UNTIL that awful half-human thing showed up and yelled "mother"....

Ripley's desire to save Newt, as shown in the "extended edition"(which is just as good as the Theatrical cut, not better or worse), is because she lost her own daughter, due to the time diffrence caused by the incident. She sees Newt as her adopted daughter.

[Transformer]

Must see this movie. It makes up one leg of the quadrumvirate of awesome movies on my radar, along with Brave, The Dark Knight Rises, and The Hobbit.

[CGDouglas]

Originally Posted by colliric

The much longer Director's Cut is much better than the original version, although it still suffers from the dreaded "third film in a trilogy" curse.... I still think Alien 3 has one of the most exciting and well directed opening sequences from the entire series(even if it doesn't really make sense that they didn't detect the queen's egg on the ship before taking off). Would have been even cooler if you didn't see the facehugger shot in my opinion, and the audience was left to wonder what caused the "emergency evacuation".....

The Director's Cut had that ending without Elliot Goldenthal's Adagio, which wasn't as good as the theatrical. Nevertheless, the Director's Cut added a alot of necessary information which Fox wanted out. I think the facehugger shot was okay, how the egg managed to get there is rather a mystery. The problem is, is it a mystery or just a plot hole? Alien 3 brought it into a grim reality, no happy endings so to speak during the world. It's the sacrificial nature of 3 that made it great.

Originally Posted by colliric

I enjoyed the Fourth film better than the 3rd, UNTIL that awful half-human thing showed up and yelled "mother"....

Ripley's desire to save Newt, as shown in the "extended edition"(which is just as good as the Theatrical cut, not better or worse), is because she lost her own daughter, due to the time diffrence caused by the incident. She sees Newt as her adopted daughter.

The fourth one was bad due to the fact that it lacked Gigerian influence, which is over-emphasised in both one and three. That alien was atrocious, especially when it yelled mother. What was worse was crashing the ship into the Earth. To me at least, Resurrection was basically a way to extend the lifeline of a sequel that should have ended at three.

The trilogy made sense. One was Birth and Propagation, Two was Propagation and War, Three was Survival and Propagation finally with Death.

God Bless,

Christopher.

[SurlyMermaid]

Originally Posted by transformer

must see this movie. It makes up one leg of the quadrumvirate of awesome movies on my radar, along with brave, the dark knight rises, and the hobbit.

yes!!!!!!!!!!!!

[colliric]

What was worse was crashing the ship into the Earth

ummmm......

The trilogy made sense. One was Birth and Propagation, Two was Propagation and War, Three was Survival and Propagation finally with Death.

Prometheus is going to be "Design and Conception"......

[Et Cetera]

I know that a lot of people are really hyped for this movie. I think it's going to be really cool, and this isn't even usually the genre that I go for. Yeah, should be a fun summer film.

[colliric]

Originally Posted by Et Cetera

I know that a lot of people are really hyped for this movie. I think it's going to be really cool, and this isn't even usually the genre that I go for. Yeah, should be a fun summer film.

The more I think about this film, the more I think it's going to be awesome that most people will go into the film without thinking it's actually the direct Alien Prequel... Well done on Ridley for "dancing around" about it being the prequel, in his interviews, he's onto a winner with this one.

They will be pretty suprised by the ending.... It sounds like a real ripper of an action packed climax that should do the last 20 minutes of Alien, and Aliens, justice.

[Theophorus]

Originally Posted by CGDouglas

The fourth one was bad due to the fact that it lacked Gigerian influence, which is over-emphasised in both one and three. That alien was atrocious, especially when it yelled mother. What was worse was crashing the ship into the Earth. To me at least, Resurrection was basically a way to extend the lifeline of a sequel that should have ended at three.

The fourth one was pretty bad alright not to mention the crossover alien Vs. predator shenanigans. Prometheus should redress the balance quite nicely.

[CGDouglas]

Originally Posted by colliric

The more I think about this film, the more I think it's going to be awesome that most people will go into the film without thinking it's actually the direct Alien Prequel... Well done on Ridley for "dancing around" about it being the prequel, in his interviews, he's onto a winner with this one.

They will be pretty suprised by the ending.... It sounds like a real ripper of an action packed climax that should do the last 20 minutes of Alien, and Aliens, justice.

As long as it isn't another airlock, three of four movies, and they all die from an airlock.

Originally Posted by Theophorus

The fourth one was pretty bad alright not to mention the crossover alien Vs. predator shenanigans. Prometheus should redress the balance quite nicely.

AvP was awful...

God Bless,

Christopher.

[edwest2]

I watched a few more trailers and it's still not adding up for me. I honestly dislike writing about what I do, but I've been involved in creating large-scale science-fiction and fantasy worlds. The company I work for has contacts with Hollywood and I had the privilege of helping a young screenwriter who is now working on his first 'real' screenplay for a name Hollywood company.

As a storyteller, I'm seeing odd, and disjointed exposition. I don't care about David. He is a device in a humanoid shell. He has no will and no internal potentiality. Any references to what he thinks about or what he can do cannot be self-referential. He's just a mimic and can't do anything beyond his programming. Such a device would only be under the control of the military and not a private corporation. Of course, such a device excludes certain human frailties/problems but that is the point of building it. Note I'm not saying this will be a bad movie at all.

WARNING: Spoiler Alert

From what I can tell, the first FTL spaceship from earth makes it to this planet at exactly the wrong time, which is contrived. Plus the establishing shots did not impress me much.



My 2 cents,
Ed

[colliric]

Originally Posted by edwest2

I watched a few more trailers and it's still not adding up for me. I honestly dislike writing about what I do, but I've been involved in creating large-scale science-fiction and fantasy worlds. The company I work for has contacts with Hollywood and I had the privilege of helping a young screenwriter who is now working on his first 'real' screenplay for a name Hollywood company.

I have seen the synopsis, and knowing the plot of the this has only made me more exicited to see it, because it really creates a rock-solid origin story, and has one of the best Science Fiction plots of a film since the mid eighties. I agree the trailers have seemed disjointed, but this is REALLY, in my opinion, because the Filmmaker has a made a concious choice not to allow the plot to be totally spoiled by the trailer, in particular how this film actually really does relate to the 1979 original and IS it's prequel.

As a storyteller, I'm seeing odd, and disjointed exposition. I don't care about David. He is a device in a humanoid shell. He has no will and no internal potentiality. Any references to what he thinks about or what he can do cannot be self-referential. He's just a mimic and can't do anything beyond his programming. Such a device would only be under the control of the military and not a private corporation. Of course, such a device excludes certain human frailties/problems but that is the point of building it. Note I'm not saying this will be a bad movie at all.

In the film, he does do something beyond his programming and it plays a major part in the film. What you don't realise is that his external flesh contains elements of Human DNA. This was actually shown in the film Alien, when Ash is bashed to shreds by Parker(you can see Ash is made of a "fleshy" substance). While in Aliens, it was established that Bishop had been programmed to mimic certain human emotions(Mostly Compassion, he is given the ability to understand why he was programmed to commit to acts that would normally be impossibly dangerous for Human Beings to do, while it would be a "walk in the park" for him) as part of the "upgrades" given him.

These "androids" have some humanity and flesh in their make up. Ridley Scott originally likened Ash to the Frankenstien monster(And not coincidently this new film is called Prometheus!).... esentially dead flesh, reanimated(and with electrical "control" parts "installed").

Also in Aliens, it was shown that the Military is in Cahoots with the Weyland-Yutani corporation, providing security services for them, No doubt including co-developing these Androids.

WARNING: Spoiler Alert

From what I can tell, the first FTL spaceship from earth makes it to this planet at exactly the wrong time, which is contrived. Plus the establishing shots did not impress me much.

I have an even bigger spoiler Alert that I will only converse with you in the Private Messages, but its related in a big way to this!

[edwest2]

For me, Ash was covered in "stuff' to help him mimic a human being, nothing more. I do hope this movie is not just another 2001: strange alien force - no actual beings seen - who somehow affect humanity in a fundamental way. The "slab(s)" were just so advanced - I doubt they were controlled as events unfolded - that they just played out a preprogrammed scenario over long periods of time triggered by key events/developments in human history.

Slab or alien being replaces God.



My two cents again,
Ed

[MugenOne]

So this movie's story-line is similar to Asimov's Foundation and Earth. By the way, Roland Emmerich will direct a movie based on the Foundation series of novels by Isaac Asimov. It'll an explosion porn.

[Midwest88]

Just watched this and I liked it, for the most part. I'm an active user on IMDb and there are a few threads on Prometheus' board that have turned into anti-religion threads. It's too bad I am not an experienced apologetic or else I would've said something, and add to the fact that such a site is devoid of anything meaningful unless a film is considered artsy and secular.

[Paul1Up]

I just went ahead and read the whole plot on Wikipedia. I'll watch it eventually, I'm sure, but I'm much too busy with work now that the summer's started.