Confidence Sinks as U.S. Job Market Progress Stalls: Economy - Page 2

The Rock · #16 May 22, '12, 9:51 pm

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Originally Posted by vsedriver

I just lost my job of 4 years. There is nothing out there beyond retail and food service. Sadly I'll make more on unemployment than actually working at this rate. Everyone should prepare for our standard of living to drop drastically.

My advice to anyone in school is to go into the medical, engineering, or machining trades. At my age it is too late to learn a new trade, nor do I have the money to do so.

I will be praying for you. The sad thing is that people don't realize real people are being hurt, it is not just statistics. I am so sorry for your situation.

Nec5 · #17 May 22, '12, 9:57 pm

The really sad part is that so many think getting rid of our current worthless President will be much of a fix. This is a decades long cultural degradation that has caused financial problems. You can't fix the economy without fixing the source of the problem, but people don't want to hear it.

And you all must be wrong because CNN and FNC can't hold back their joy about the "slow but steady" improvement. And they're filled with so many experts and economists, so they must be right.

**rlg94086** · #18 May 22, '12, 9:58 pm

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Originally Posted by vsedriver

I just lost my job of 4 years. There is nothing out there beyond retail and food service. Sadly I'll make more on unemployment than actually working at this rate. Everyone should prepare for our standard of living to drop drastically.

My advice to anyone in school is to go into the medical, engineering, or machining trades. At my age it is too late to learn a new trade, nor do I have the money to do so.

I will pray for you. I'm a high tech salesman, now 3 years into my car sales career.

Initially, I would have made more on unemployment and regretted taking the first thing I could. I made 1/4 of my previous income the first year, 1/2 the second year, and I'm now up to 3/4. I'm still trying to get back into my preferred field, but I am thankful I didn't stay on unemployment for more than a couple weeks. My past experience applied to the car business helped me move into management quickly.

Don't give up hope. Do what you need to do.

The Rock · #19 May 22, '12, 10:09 pm

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Originally Posted by Nec5

The really sad part is that so many think getting rid of our current worthless President will be much of a fix. This is a decades long cultural degradation that has caused financial problems. You can't fix the economy without fixing the source of the problem, but people don't want to hear it.

And you all must be wrong because CNN and FNC can't hold back their joy about the "slow but steady" improvement. And they're filled with so many experts and economists, so they must be right.

Very true.
But Obama is accelerating the degradation.
Moral an economic realities are not unrelated.
But the true answer is always the same...Jesus.

Our country and perhaps the entire world may need a severe jolt to turn back to God.

Better to be poor than damned

7 Sorrows · #20 May 22, '12, 10:40 pm

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Originally Posted by Nec5

The really sad part is that so many think getting rid of our current worthless President will be much of a fix. This is a decades long cultural degradation that has caused financial problems. You can't fix the economy without fixing the source of the problem, but people don't want to hear it.

And you all must be wrong because CNN and FNC can't hold back their joy about the "slow but steady" improvement. And they're filled with so many experts and economists, so they must be right.

so you think tim geithner has done a good job? why has there not been any improvement in 4 years? to me, the economic situation has gotten worse. where i live the real estate market collapsed so badly that the home i faithfully made mortgage payments on for 23 years is worth less today than what i paid for it in 1989. getting rid of our current president and getting a president who understands economy for one thing would help and who knows the right people to make up his cabinet would help. obama and his economic people seem to have tried one thing after another without success. they don't seem to be able to begin to understand what is wrong or how to fix it.

Scott_Lafrance · #21 May 23, '12, 3:12 am

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Originally Posted by rlg94086

I will pray for you. I'm a high tech salesman, now 3 years into my car sales career.

Initially, I would have made more on unemployment and regretted taking the first thing I could. I made 1/4 of my previous income the first year, 1/2 the second year, and I'm now up to 3/4. I'm still trying to get back into my preferred field, but I am thankful I didn't stay on unemployment for more than a couple weeks. My past experience applied to the car business helped me move into management quickly.

Don't give up hope. Do what you need to do.

The answer that God is pointing my wife and I towards is....simplify. We are working feverishly to unload all debt, all of it, including our house, even if at a loss. I realized that I grew up in a small place in Maine. I didn't need a big joint with a media room, etc... Our family was happy because we didn't have alot of "stuff" to interfere. I also realize that a mortgage and debt are shackles that keep you chained down and enslaved to a job and a particular income requirement. I am not suggesting this for anyone. Its just what God is calling me to.

**Ridgerunner** · #22 May 23, '12, 5:58 am

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Originally Posted by 7 Sorrows

so you think tim geithner has done a good job? why has there not been any improvement in 4 years? to me, the economic situation has gotten worse. where i live the real estate market collapsed so badly that the home i faithfully made mortgage payments on for 23 years is worth less today than what i paid for it in 1989. getting rid of our current president and getting a president who understands economy for one thing would help and who knows the right people to make up his cabinet would help. obama and his economic people seem to have tried one thing after another without success. they don't seem to be able to begin to understand what is wrong or how to fix it.

No, I think the people in this administration and their supporters know exactly what they're doing. They want a dependent society, and don't care how much suffering they cause in order to get it done.

Scott_Lafrance · #23 May 23, '12, 6:02 am

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Originally Posted by Ridgerunner

No, I think the people in this administration and their supporters know exactly what they're doing. They want a dependent society, and don't care how much suffering they cause in order to get it done.

"You can't make an omelette without breaking a few eggs." Mao Tzetung

**Ridgerunner** · #24 May 23, '12, 6:02 am

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Originally Posted by Scott_Lafrance

The answer that God is pointing my wife and I towards is....simplify. We are working feverishly to unload all debt, all of it, including our house, even if at a loss. I realized that I grew up in a small place in Maine. I didn't need a big joint with a media room, etc... Our family was happy because we didn't have alot of "stuff" to interfere. I also realize that a mortgage and debt are shackles that keep you chained down and enslaved to a job and a particular income requirement. I am not suggesting this for anyone. Its just what God is calling me to.

I agree with you. On a macro level, reducing consumption is not good for the economy. But individuals cannot affect the whole economy; cannot, by spending or throwing money at some losing investment, improve society as a whole. We "little people" can only salvage our own economiesm, pending the passage of Obama, Soros and Co from the scene. Trouble is, we can't know how much damage they will do in the meanwhile, and it might be irreparable.

Scott_Lafrance · #25 May 23, '12, 6:19 am

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Originally Posted by Ridgerunner

I agree with you. On a macro level, reducing consumption is not good for the economy. But individuals cannot affect the whole economy; cannot, by spending or throwing money at some losing investment, improve society as a whole. We "little people" can only salvage our own economiesm, pending the passage of Obama, Soros and Co from the scene. Trouble is, we can't know how much damage they will do in the meanwhile, and it might be irreparable.

The "throw away society" that we have created has caused us to devalue the things that really mean something and is symptomatic of a materialistic mindset. We are supposed to "use stuff and love people". Rather, we have become a society that "uses people and loves stuff".

Michael C · #26 May 23, '12, 8:11 am

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Originally Posted by Scott_Lafrance

Republicans need to take out a chainsaw go across the board on spending and regulations. No sacred cows. No more bailouts. No more corporate welfare.

Agreed, but don't hold your breathe. My congressman is Peter King who only cares about his phony war on terror and supported the bailouts. I don't have to tell you it's not a partisan problem.

**Ridgerunner** · #27 May 23, '12, 8:24 am

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Originally Posted by Michael C

Agreed, but don't hold your breathe. My congressman is Peter King who only cares about his phony war on terror and supported the bailouts. I don't have to tell you it's not a partisan problem.

It's not a totally partisan problem, but it is still a partisan problem. The "stimulus" and Obamacare were not voted in by Republicans. Yes, the Repubs spend too much, but the Dems really have taken it to a whole new level. Recall that in 2007 the deficit in the budget was about $160 billion. It's almost ten times that now.

**rlg94086** · #28 May 23, '12, 8:27 am

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Originally Posted by Scott_Lafrance

The answer that God is pointing my wife and I towards is....simplify. We are working feverishly to unload all debt, all of it, including our house, even if at a loss. I realized that I grew up in a small place in Maine. I didn't need a big joint with a media room, etc... Our family was happy because we didn't have alot of "stuff" to interfere. I also realize that a mortgage and debt are shackles that keep you chained down and enslaved to a job and a particular income requirement. I am not suggesting this for anyone. Its just what God is calling me to.

Michael C · #29 May 23, '12, 8:31 am

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Originally Posted by Ridgerunner

It's not a totally partisan problem, but it is still a partisan problem. The "stimulus" and Obamacare were not voted in by Republicans. Yes, the Repubs spend too much, but the Dems really have taken it to a whole new level. Recall that in 2007 the deficit in the budget was about $160 billion. It's almost ten times that now.

Please don't take my post as an endorsment of the democrats. If our economic future was left in their hands their would be toll booths at the end of every driveway and they would tax the words that come out of mouths.

Nec5 · #30 May 23, '12, 1:20 pm

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Originally Posted by 7 Sorrows

so you think tim geithner has done a good job? why has there not been any improvement in 4 years? to me, the economic situation has gotten worse. where i live the real estate market collapsed so badly that the home i faithfully made mortgage payments on for 23 years is worth less today than what i paid for it in 1989. getting rid of our current president and getting a president who understands economy for one thing would help and who knows the right people to make up his cabinet would help. obama and his economic people seem to have tried one thing after another without success. they don't seem to be able to begin to understand what is wrong or how to fix it.

How the heck did you infer that I support anything in the current administration from my post?