China hits back on U.S. human rights

[TheTrueCentrist]

http://edition.cnn.com/2012/05/25/wo...-human-rights/

Beijing, China (CNN) -- China criticized a "woeful" human rights record in the United States on Friday, a day after a U.S. report said Beijing's own record is getting worse, with harsh crackdowns on dissidents.

"The United States' tarnished human rights record has left it in no state -- whether on a moral, political or legal basis -- to act as the world's 'human rights justice,' " China said in an annual report on U.S. human rights.

[TheTrueCentrist]

Full text here:

http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/cndy/20...t_15392452.htm

[andremiguel]

Originally Posted by TheTrueCentrist

http://edition.cnn.com/2012/05/25/wo...-human-rights/

The abhorrent US slave trade cannot be compared with the hundreds of millions of Chinese killed by the communist regimen in only 40 years.

[empacae]

Oh boy! Now that's rich.

[George Stegmeir]

Unfortunately, they are reminding us that : "He who pays the bills, calls the shots.....and NEVER FORGET IT!"

[SaintPatrick333]

Originally Posted by andremiguel

The abhorrent US slave trade cannot be compared with the hundreds of millions of Chinese killed by the communist regimen in only 40 years.

but what of the tens of millions of innocent babies slaughtered every year in the womb? America is just as much of a tyrant as any other country. Our actions making war in the name of "peace" throughout the middle east is proof enough. Like the "WMD's" in Iraq lol

[curlycool89]

And that is why I call this the China defense fallacy. Pointing at someone else's wrongs doesn't make your actions any less wrong.

[Rich Olszewski]

Originally Posted by andremiguel

The abhorrent US slave trade cannot be compared with the hundreds of millions of Chinese killed by the communist regimen in only 40 years.

There is no definite number, but the usual one quoted is 65 million, not even 100 million, let alone "hundreds of millions."

[andremiguel]

Originally Posted by SaintPatrick333

but what of the tens of millions of innocent babies slaughtered every year in the womb? America is just as much of a tyrant as any other country. Our actions making war in the name of "peace" throughout the middle east is proof enough. Like the "WMD's" in Iraq lol

Did you ever thought on the number of abortions in China?
Remember, they have and had a 1-baby rule. Besides, every Chinese family wants a male heir so female babies were killed.
For you to have an idea, there are 70 million more males in China than females. so, imagine...

So, besides the millions slaughtered as political prisoners, you have more abortions in China much more than population in the USA.

[scipio337]

Originally Posted by curlycool89

And that is why I call this the China defense fallacy. Pointing at someone else's wrongs doesn't make your actions any less wrong.

It's called a "tu quoque fallacy".


China's grievances:

1) "The United States prioritizes the right to keep and bear arms over the protection of citizens' lives and personal security and exercises lax firearm possession control, causing rampant gun ownership"

LOL. What do you call a free man unable to own weapons? A slave.



2) #OWS arrests.


Hmmm, is it any surprise that the world's larges Communist regime sympathizes with orgainizations with communist goals?

[bexdad]

Originally Posted by SaintPatrick333

but what of the tens of millions of innocent babies slaughtered every year in the womb? America is just as much of a tyrant as any other country. Our actions making war in the name of "peace" throughout the middle east is proof enough. Like the "WMD's" in Iraq lol

"lol"?......how about the 400,000 people pulled out of mass graves after the Iraqi dictator (the real tyrant) was overthrown.....not exactly something to laugh out loud or be flip about.

[curlycool89]

Originally Posted by scipio337

It's called a "tu quoque fallacy".

Darn, and here I thought I had invented something.

Well, at least I know what to call it now (but I do still like "China defense fallacy").

[JimR-OCDS]

Heck, all the Chinese government has to do is point at the USA's use of torture at GITMO, and the CIA sending prisoners to "Black Sites," where more aggressive torture is used.

Thanks to the Bush years as president, the USA has lost all moral credibility when it comes to human rights.

Jim

[andremiguel]

Originally Posted by JimR-OCDS

Heck, all the Chinese government has to do is point at the USA's use of torture at GITMO, and the CIA sending prisoners to "Black Sites," where more aggressive torture is used.

Thanks to the Bush years as president, the USA has lost all moral credibility when it comes to human rights.

Jim

I am not American but tell you, in human rights, China cannot point at NO one in the world.

[kelvinf]

When it comes to human rights per country, I prefer the reports from independent bodies like Amnesty International that covers all countries.