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Old Jun 13, '12, 11:17 am
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Default Re: Can A Man be a "Mother?": Gay Marriage is a Nonsequitur

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What is this Natural Law you keep referring to? I can find no reference to Marriage here. Please tell me what and/or where you're getting your understanding of Natural Law from.
It's the concept of Natural Law discussed in your link:

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Classically, natural law refers to the use of reason to analyze human nature -- both social and personal -- and deduce binding rules of moral behavior. Natural law is contrasted with the positive law (meaning "man-made law", not "good law"; cf. posit) of a given political community, society, or nation-state, and thus serves as a standard by which to critique said positive law.[2] According to natural law theory, which holds that morality is a function of human nature and reason can discover valid moral principles by looking at the nature of humanity in society, the content of positive law cannot be known without some reference to natural law (or something like it). Used in this way, natural law can be invoked to criticize decisions about the statutes, but less so to criticize the law itself. (Wikipedia)
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What is your objection, if any, to giving Civil Unions the same benefits as Marriage?
My objection arises from the portrayal of two clearly different forms of relationship (Marital and Same-sex union) as being essentially indistinguishable. On a legal level, I have no problem with giving homosexual couples the right to register as domestic partners. In CA, this is already the law, and it passed with relatively little outcry. The point at which I dissent is where one wrongly concludes there is no real difference between marital unions and homosexual unions, when human nature, and reason, dictate that there is a clear difference.

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Rather then toss another quote in just going to say you mention things like natural law, unique characteristics of marriage, and other things implying innate traits of marriage. Please tell me if not from Religion, where are you getting these things?
Natural law. (see above.) It's obvious just from the observation of marriage, and what it has been throughout history. It is the pro-gay-marriage side that seems to ignore the procreative aspect of marriage, and focuses myopically upon only the unitive aspects.

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