LOH (Christian Prayer: Liturgy Of the Hours): Where is the Concluding Prayer for Sundays in Ordinary Time

pigeon12 · #1 Jun 16, '12, 10:42 pm

I am using a copy of "Christian Prayer: The Liturgy of the Hours". I cannot find the "Concluding Prayer" for the Sundays in Ordinary time. Page 698 of the "Ordinary" reads, "... in all other offices it is taken from the Proper". However the Proper for the Sundays in Ordinary Time does not give the Concluding Prayer for either Evening I or Evening II.
I visited the website http://divineoffice.org/ which presents the exact prayers for each day, and I cannot find anywhere in "Christian Prayer" the Concluding Prayer that this website shows for tonight (11th Sunday in Ordinary Time).
Are these prayers just not published in this book, or is there another place to find them?
Thank you.

tee_eff_em · #2 Jun 17, '12, 1:28 am

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Originally Posted by pigeon12

I am using a copy of "Christian Prayer: The Liturgy of the Hours". I cannot find the "Concluding Prayer" for the Sundays in Ordinary time. Page 698 of the "Ordinary" reads, "... in all other offices it is taken from the Proper". However the Proper for the Sundays in Ordinary Time does not give the Concluding Prayer for either Evening I or Evening II.

The same prayer is used to conclude each of the three hours (as well as the Office of Readings), and is printed under Morning Prayer in the Proper of Seasons.

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Originally Posted by pigeon12

I visited the website http://divineoffice.org/ which presents the exact prayers for each day, and I cannot find anywhere in "Christian Prayer" the Concluding Prayer that this website shows for tonight (11th Sunday in Ordinary Time).
Are these prayers just not published in this book, or is there another place to find them?
Thank you.

I cannot say for certain why the presented prayer does not match the printed one (which it ought to), but you can see it is similar to it. It could be that the site has replaced the prayer by the Collect from the Mass of the day (which is likewise the same prayer, but has been newly translated), though I am not sure if that would be correct practice?

tee

pigeon12 · #3 Jun 17, '12, 5:52 am

Thank you tee_eff_em (TFM - ?). Thank you for answering my question. I was thrown off by the "Morning Prayer" heading.
I think you are right in that the prayer on divineoffice.org is a newly translated version of the morning prayer that is in my Christian Prayer edition. I did not notice last night that they have essentially the same meaning. My edition of Christian Prayer is from 1976. It seems like I should go to the book store and see if there is a new edition, although I would like to continue to use this current edition because it belonged to my father and is extra special to me. Since I am a lay person, I suppose that I am not bound to using the most current revision; on the other hand, I want to be in full unity with the many Catholics praying each morning and evening.
I am very grateful to you for your help. Now I understand what to do.

tee_eff_em · #4 Jun 18, '12, 7:34 am

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Originally Posted by tee_eff_em

I cannot say for certain why the presented prayer does not match the printed one (which it ought to), but you can see it is similar to it. It could be that the site has replaced the prayer by the Collect from the Mass of the day (which is likewise the same prayer, but has been newly translated), though I am not sure if that would be correct practice?

It does appear this is suggested as an adaptation to the Liturgy of the Hours (cf New English translation of Liturgy of the Hours?).

I have little opportunity to pray in common, let alone do I keep up individual prayer with any regularity, but as comfortable as I may be with the "page turning" that seems to befuddle many, I can't say I'd relish reaching for a whole other resource (book, photostat, print out, et cetera) for the closing prayer, united though it might be with the Eucharistic Liturgy

tee

tee_eff_em · #5 Jun 18, '12, 7:41 am

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Originally Posted by pigeon12

My edition of Christian Prayer is from 1976. It seems like I should go to the book store and see if there is a new edition, although I would like to continue to use this current edition because it belonged to my father and is extra special to me.

That is the current edition of the book. My understanding is that a complete revision of the English translation of the Liturgy of the Hours is planned, but not to be expected for quite a few years yet.

tee

pigeon12 · #6 Jun 18, '12, 9:21 pm

Thank you for the additional research information. Now that I understand what is going on, I think I'll stick with my 1976 edition for now.

Catholic Cat · #7 Jun 23, '12, 11:42 am

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Originally Posted by pigeon12

I am using a copy of "Christian Prayer: The Liturgy of the Hours". I cannot find the "Concluding Prayer" for the Sundays in Ordinary time. Page 698 of the "Ordinary" reads, "... in all other offices it is taken from the Proper". However the Proper for the Sundays in Ordinary Time does not give the Concluding Prayer for either Evening I or Evening II.
I visited the website http://divineoffice.org/ which presents the exact prayers for each day, and I cannot find anywhere in "Christian Prayer" the Concluding Prayer that this website shows for tonight (11th Sunday in Ordinary Time).
Are these prayers just not published in this book, or is there another place to find them?
Thank you.

I was quite stumped by this too until I searched their frequently asked question section. They aren't using the printed prayer in our books. So our book isn't wrong they are doing something different. See their explanation in the frequently asked questions of their website under "why is my concluding prayer different".