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Jun 18, '12, 5:55 pm
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Re: Lay person in cassock and surplice
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Don't worry, you aren't alone. What about a crosier?
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Why would it bother you if it is a traditional practice? If recent I can certainly see but knowing it (if it) was practiced traditionally I don't have the slightest issue with it.
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Jun 18, '12, 6:01 pm
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Re: Lay person in cassock and surplice
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Why would it bother you if it is a traditional practice? If recent I can certainly see but knowing it (if it) was practiced traditionally I don't have the slightest issue with it.
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People may confuse it with a female ordination to the episcopate. Thus, it isn't that I disapprove of it as a practice, I simply believe it may be unintentionally scandalous.
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Jun 19, '12, 12:19 pm
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Re: Lay person in cassock and surplice
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Don't worry, you aren't alone. What about a crosier?
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They are already intimidating with a ruler in their hands, can you just imagine how a Catholic school alumni would feel when he sees one with a crosier?
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Jun 19, '12, 12:41 pm
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Re: Lay person in cassock and surplice
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They are already intimidating with a ruler in their hands, can you just imagine how a Catholic school alumni would feel when he sees one with a crosier? 
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I would assume that she is visiting from the Episcopal Church or something.
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Jun 19, '12, 1:04 pm
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Re: Lay person in cassock and surplice
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I would assume that she is visiting from the Episcopal Church or something.
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I was being silly. I was thinking of sisters teaching in Catholic schools and laying down the law with a ruler. If that thought is already scary for quite a few people, what would be their reaction to a woman in a habit carrying something as big as a crosier, they would duck for cover.
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Jun 20, '12, 4:55 pm
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Re: Lay person in cassock and surplice
Your answer, as most all answers to the questions on the forums are found on the Vatican web site.
In this case refer to General Instructions of the Roman Missal under "Adaptations for Dioceses of the United States of America". There you will find your answer under paragraph #339 entitled 'Sacred Vestments for the Mass'.
Simple, one official answer, there are no other options.
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Mar 26, '13, 4:43 pm
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Re: Lay person in cassock and surplice
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Originally Posted by Bl Pope Pius IX
I have worn a Cassock, Surplice, and black mozzetta before. Looked dashing! I have seen pictures of Altar Boys wearing Cassock, Surplice, fascia, and even a biretta. I have worn a cincture as well, but it was never seen on the outside. Personally I take more issue with purple and red cassocks (no matter how much I'd like to wear one!).
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I'm starting altar severing. Can altar servers wear birettas with cassocks and surplices?
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Mar 27, '13, 12:52 am
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Re: Lay person in cassock and surplice
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I'm starting altar severing. Can altar servers wear birettas with cassocks and surplices?
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Putting aside the question of whether laity can wear birettas (outside of a seminary) the short answer is that you should wear whatever altar servers in your parish usually wear. If they don't wear birettas then that's your answer. The cost might also make you think twice: anything from $79 up to about $225!
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Mar 27, '13, 3:16 pm
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Re: Lay person in cassock and surplice
[ is patently obvious that those who are not in orders may wear cassock and surplice. It is done all the time all over the place. Even women (omg!!!!) may wear cassock and surplice. In my parish we wear cassock and a square-neck surplice and I always wear a white shirt done up to the top .
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Mar 28, '13, 10:22 pm
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Re: Lay person in cassock and surplice
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Even women (omg!!!!) may wear cassock and surplice.
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That is debatable. In my parish, the girls wear white albs and cinctures in the liturgical color, while the boys and men wear cassock and surplice.
(We also have a dress code, and presentable shoes are available in the closet for those found without them.)
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Mar 28, '13, 10:30 pm
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Re: Lay person in cassock and surplice
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(We also have a dress code, and presentable shoes are available in the closet for those found without them.)
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Now there's an idea - do you supply socks as well?
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Mar 29, '13, 6:31 am
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Re: Lay person in cassock and surplice
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I'm starting altar severing. Can altar servers wear birettas with cassocks and surplices?
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Only if you are a seminarian, and even then this is generaly only found nowadays at seminaries that teach the Extraordinary Form of the Mass.
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