Unusual prayer at mass - Page 4

fastenatingguy · #46 Jul 19, '12, 10:19 am

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Originally Posted by nickybr38

Good point.

Phew! Writing prayers for the Prayers of the Faithful is hard work!

Slightly OT, but I agree with you.

We must have someone new doing this at our Basilica. For the last few months, each prayer request has this "format" that they use, which is written with a tone and an education level that only a PhD would understand. Actually, they are incredible "run on" sentences that all of my nuns from the 60's would find ghastly! Each petition takes15 to 30 seconds to read (my guesstimate, don't have a stopwatch).

Example: For all our political leaders, that they may _______________________ and so that_______________________ and ________________________; for whenever __________________ and then ________________________ because_____________. For this we pray "Lord, hear our prayer"

Anybody else experience this? For many years preceeding, most of the prayers were structured like the beatitudes. Maybe they wanted a change.

nickybr38 · #47 Jul 19, '12, 10:21 am

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Originally Posted by fastenatingguy

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Slightly OT, but I agree with you.

We must have someone new doing this at our Basilica. For the last few months, each prayer request has this "format" that they use, which is written with a tone and an education level that only a PhD would understand. Actually, they are incredible "run on" sentences that all of my nuns from the 60's would find ghastly! Each petition takes15 to 30 seconds to read (my guesstimate, don't have a stopwatch).

Example: For all our political leaders, that they may _______________________ and so that_______________________ and ________________________; for whenever __________________ and then ________________________ because_____________. For this we pray "Lord, hear our prayer"

Anybody else experience this? For many years preceeding, most of the prayers were structured like the beatitudes. Maybe they wanted a change.

Our parish is ridiculously by the book. The Prayers of the Faithful are THE prayers that the Missal suggests and that's about it. We very rarely if EVER diverge from what's in the book.

Allegra · #48 Jul 19, '12, 10:24 am

I agree the prayer was inappropriate. It would have been better to say, "We pray for those who struggle with sexual sins, may they find the strength..." (Assuming that the intent actually was to pray for gay people and not to encourage sin.)

mangy dog · #49 Jul 19, '12, 10:32 am

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Originally Posted by nickybr38

Good point.

Phew! Writing prayers for the Prayers of the Faithful is hard work!

Exactly, you are so correct. That why the prayer of the faithful has to be so Catholic so that the intentions of the church are the same everywhere around the world.

It is hard work and the part that refers to the particular congregation has to be worded so that we don't deliver an anti-catholic message while praying for someone.

Lynarnett · #50 Jul 19, '12, 10:56 am

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Originally Posted by Rejoice Always

Yes, I do. But the Prayers Of The Faithful often specifically mention sinners (a wide range of sinners are specifically mentioned at every Mass I've ever attended) This thread claims that there are certain, specific sinners that should never be mentioned during Mass.

I know I said I wouldn't respond to you any longer, but you are absolutely wrong that this thread claims any such thing, and shame on you for misquoting me. Reread the thread. The others have it right. This church was not praying for them, but thanking them. We are ALL sinners who faithfully serve the church. You have taken this thread completely wrong, and I suspect that you indeed have an agenda as well.

Lynarnett · #51 Jul 19, '12, 11:03 am

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Originally Posted by Daizies

This isn't your usual parish I assume since you said you were visiting. Maybe there had been a series of ongoing problems prior to this, and the prayer was intended as a reminder to all to be charitable to those who struggle with this.

If this was a regular occurrence then there may be cause for concern, but we don't know that it is. My opinion is to assume good intentions until it is proved otherwise, and not worry about it.

Sorry, I disagree with you ( and I'm not worried about it). I am a convert from being a baptist for over 50 years. For me to "cross the Tiber" was not only monumental, but I'm still being shunned by many people because of it, I take this stuff seriously, and I'm very bothered by people who shrug this nonsense off and fail to understand the damage it can do to, yes, visitors. It was wrong to do.

mangy dog · #52 Jul 19, '12, 11:40 am

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Originally Posted by Rejoice Always

In your opinion, would it have better to not pray for them?

In your opinion, would it be better to be ambiguous about what is said in the mass.

mangy dog · #53 Jul 19, '12, 11:47 am

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Originally Posted by Rejoice Always

Ok.

Ok.

What I've learned on CAF today!

There are certain sinners who are not sinners like us. We should never mention those certain sinners, or pray for them, in the Prayer Of The Faithful during Mass.

Ok. what I've learned on ...joice's thread today!

There are certain rules of the catholic church that can be bent a little so as to be ambiguous and ambivalent about content and intent. We should never follow proper format that is appropriate for the prayer of the faithful and if I can't do it and say it my way then I will become obtuse about what the CAF members are trying to tell me.