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May 12, '12, 3:22 pm
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Re: Reincarnation is dead wrong and goes against Church teachings
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I hope you were joking!
All of us are special to the Lord and have potential to be saints with His grace. 
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You should be able to tell that from the EMOTICON I selected for the end of my post. It is a guy rolling his eyes indicating sarcasm!
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May 12, '12, 5:24 pm
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Re: Reincarnation is dead wrong and goes against Church teachings
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You should be able to tell that from the EMOTICON I selected for the end of my post. It is a guy rolling his eyes indicating sarcasm! 
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Ooooo...kay!
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May 12, '12, 5:32 pm
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Re: Reincarnation is dead wrong and goes against Church teachings
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I think perhaps he is getting the two words 'reincarnation' and 'resurrection' confused.
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Actually, resurrection isn't what it was, as they were going to die again someday. I know what you meant though. (miraculous resuscitation?).
At the end of time, the saved will have a resurrection in a glorified body, never to die again!
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May 12, '12, 5:40 pm
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Re: Reincarnation is dead wrong and goes against Church teachings
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Ooooo...kay! 
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I do believe in Carnation Milk (from contented cows!)
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May 12, '12, 5:45 pm
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Re: Reincarnation is dead wrong and goes against Church teachings
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I do believe in Carnation Milk (from contented cows!) 
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And the Carnation cows are content even though they have only one life!
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May 13, '12, 7:47 am
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Re: Reincarnation is dead wrong and goes against Church teachings
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And the Carnation cows are content even though they have only one life!
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Only one life, so soon it will be past. Only what's done for Christ will last.
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May 13, '12, 10:49 am
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Only one life, so soon it will be past. Only what's done for Christ will last.
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Amen. Alleluia!
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May 13, '12, 9:02 pm
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Re: Reincarnation is dead wrong and goes against Church teachings
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Stylites,
Are you thinking that those were reincarnations? They were not reincarnations.
Those were miracles of Our Lord Jesus Christ who brought back to this earthly life as a sign, those few you mentioned who were being mourned by their families.
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My comment was related to dying once, not on reincarnation. Certainly there are generalizations in Scripture, and then there are always exceptions to the general rule. If God decides someone should die twice then they will, just as if God were to decide someone should live twice.
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Who wants to see God? Cry to the Lord with an intensely yearning heart and you will certainly see Him. People shed jugs of tears for money, wife, and children. But if they would weep for God for only one day they would surely see Him.
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May 14, '12, 3:20 am
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Re: Reincarnation is dead wrong and goes against Church teachings
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My comment was related to dying once, not on reincarnation. Certainly there are generalizations in Scripture, and then there are always exceptions to the general rule. If God decides someone should die twice then they will, just as if God were to decide someone should live twice.
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Please excuse my not understanding what you wrote above.
Are you saying that God may decide that someone should live twice, as in living twice meaning that their soul was allowed to migrate into a new body?
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May 14, '12, 3:31 am
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Re: Reincarnation is dead wrong and goes against Church teachings
[quote=Hansel Paul;9288032]What's the story on reincarnation?
It crops up often. Even Christians and those who claim to have glimpsed eternity can be found among believers. It's in retreat groups. It's in convents.
It's especially prevalent among pagans.
Reincarnation, of course, is the belief that we live more than one life here on earth -- returning again and again until we get things exactly correct, which is why, they say, we have experiences of deja vu and seem in tune with some people instantly (while others repel us). Theoretically, we have met them before.
There are "psychics" who even will "read" your past lives. (Maybe that fear of heights is because in a past life you fell to your death? Maybe you're wary of germs -- paranoid -- because you once died of plague? Maybe you love Europe because in a past "incarnation" you lived there?)
It may sound logical, but it is also very much against the Catholic faith.
Check the Catechism:
"1013: Death is the end of man's earthly pilgrimage, of the time of grace and mercy which God offers him so as to work out his earthly life in keeping with the divine plan, and to decide his ultimate destiny. When 'the single course of our earthly life' is completed, we shall not return to other earthly lives: 'It is appointed for men to die once.' There is no 'reincarnation' after death."
That view comes in part from Hebrews 9:27, which says: "And inasmuch as it is appointed unto men once to die, and after this cometh judgment."
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I agree with that  If there is such a thing as re-incarnation on Earth ,for me it would only mean one thing, that Satan has took over someone with an evil spirit,I had an old Neighbour who thought she was Ann Frank in her former Life,well ,why not an Evil Spirit inside her? my guess is that the other excuse would be to read so many books on
the person deceased, that if possible, you could answer many questions,on the former being, as to make people believe you were that person.
Overall Heb 9:27 is for me .
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May 14, '12, 3:41 am
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Re: Reincarnation is dead wrong and goes against Church teachings
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Please excuse my not understanding what you wrote above.
Are you saying that God may decide that someone should live twice, as in living twice meaning that their soul was allowed to migrate into a new body?
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I think it is more like a person's soul leaves their body but then returns to the same body it left. Such as happens during an accident or a heart attack when someone dies and is brought back to life by medical means for example.
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May 14, '12, 3:44 am
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Re: Reincarnation is dead wrong and goes against Church teachings
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I think it is more like a person's soul leaves their body but then returns to the same body it left. Such as happens during an accident or a heart attack when someone dies and is brought back to life by medical means for example.
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Okay, I understand what you are saying now. Thanks for clarifying!
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May 14, '12, 3:53 am
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Re: Reincarnation is dead wrong and goes against Church teachings
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Okay, I understand what you are saying now. Thanks for clarifying!
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This is what happened in the cases where Jesus brought back to life people who had passed away. Their souls returned to the bodies that they had before dying. Remember Jesus called Lazarus forth rather than someone else. I presume it was the case with anyone else Jesus brought back
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May 14, '12, 4:08 am
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Re: Reincarnation is dead wrong and goes against Church teachings
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This is what happened in the cases where Jesus brought back to life people who had passed away. Their souls returned to the bodies that they had before dying. Remember Jesus called Lazarus forth rather than someone else. I presume it was the case with anyone else Jesus brought back 
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Yes, He brought them back to their own bodies!
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May 14, '12, 3:19 pm
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Re: Reincarnation is dead wrong and goes against Church teachings
Cases of "past life regression" or recovered memory occur under hypnosis. A hypnotized person does not necessarily tell the exact truth. Not that the person is lying, but under hypnosis, a person can be influenced by the hypnotist to come up with a story. The hypnotist can ask the subject to talk about a past life, and the subject will come up with a story.
Years ago there was a celebrated case which seemed to prove reincarnation: the case of "Bridey Murphy." An American woman, under hypnosis, described a life in 19th Century Ireland. It turned out, however, that this woman, when a girl, had a friend whose grandmother came from Ireland. The two girls would listen to the grandmother's stories of her life. Under hypnosis the woman was able to weave these stories into a credible tale of a past life in Ireland.
The subconscious mind can play tricks on us.
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