Marian Teachings in East and West

[Ignatius_Maron]

Originally Posted by ByzCathCantor

Both are self-identified as Byzantine Catholics (this is mentioned in Dr. Dragani's bio on the East-to-West website).

P.S. Welcome to CAF and the EC sub-forum!

Thank you for the solid clarification ByzCathCantor, I knew that Daniel Barton wasn't Syriac for sure, since the point of view he spoke from was one that was similar to Dr. Dragani's but I didn't know if he was a Alexandrian Catholic or not. I haven't read it in awhile, it says on the first line "My purpose here, as a Byzantine Catholic..." that would have helped

And thank you for the welcome, I am trying to get the hang of how layout goes.

[Marybeloved]

Originally Posted by Ignatius_Maron

I just created an account and this is my first time ever posting here on CAF. of course I have used this site as resource a many times. Now to the point:Because of how Universal the Catholic Church is, sometime people have a misunderstanding of what is meant. Most of the basis for the dogma of the Immaculate Conception are based on the writings of Eastern Church Fathers. Here are two links that I think will clarify the dogma of Immaculate Conception for those who are part of the Orthodox Churches or have a perspective that is of the Orthodox Churches. The information in both of the links are written by Eastern Catholic's, one man is Byzantine Catholic and the other I do not know what Church he is part of but I do know that he is a former Eastern Orthodox that is now an Eastern Catholic.

http://home.earthlink.net/~mysticalrose/barton1.html

For the first link there are three parts, down at the way bottom left side it has the links to the others.

http://www.east2west.org/doctrine.htm#IC

Also if you scroll up on the second link, Dr. Dragani explains Original Sin from a Greek point of view, this is a good link for Latin Catholic's(or anyone for that matter) that may not be familiar with the Greek perspective of Original Sin.

Those were great!

[GaryTaylor]

Originally Posted by Ignatius_Maron

Thank you for the solid clarification ByzCathCantor, I knew that Daniel Barton wasn't Syriac for sure, since the point of view he spoke from was one that was similar to Dr. Dragani's but I didn't know if he was a Alexandrian Catholic or not. I haven't read it in awhile, it says on the first line "My purpose here, as a Byzantine Catholic..." that would have helped

And thank you for the welcome, I am trying to get the hang of how layout goes.

Welcome to CAF, interesting links.


"In the West: The primary consequence of Original Sin is a "stain" of guilt. People are born with a guilt that needs to be washed away as soon as possible."


Right, we talked about this in relation to "guilt" on this thread I think, I didn't re-read.

[Ignatius_Maron]

Originally Posted by GaryTaylor

Welcome to CAF, interesting links.


"In the West: The primary consequence of Original Sin is a "stain" of guilt. People are born with a guilt that needs to be washed away as soon as possible."


Right, we talked about this in relation to "guilt" on this thread I think, I didn't re-read.

Thank you, welcome.

Yes, we have covered this many times, I just thought that I would mentioned that the one link explains Original Sin in its own section, just in case someone was new to this topic and what now. I do want to point out when they explain the Eastern perspective, it is a Greek. If you look many Syriac Catholic's(e.g Chaldean, Malabar, Maronite...) don't have much of an issue understanding the Immaculate Conception, the reason is that the Latin perspective(that Original Sin is a stain or mark) is similar to many of the Ancient Syriac writers perspective on Original Sin. Also I want to point out that some Ancient Greek writers also wrote about Original Sin as a mark or stain. I find it fascinating the Greek point of view of Original Sin that is explained in the links.

[Ignatius_Maron]

Originally Posted by Ignatius_Maron

I meant :Thank you, for the welcome. haha

Yes, we have covered this many times, I just thought that I would mentioned that the one link explains Original Sin in its own section, just in case someone was new to this topic and what now. I do want to point out when they explain the Eastern perspective, it is a Greek. If you look many Syriac Catholic's(e.g Chaldean, Malabar, Maronite...) don't have much of an issue understanding the Immaculate Conception, the reason is that the Latin perspective(that Original Sin is a stain or mark) is similar to many of the Ancient Syriac writers perspective on Original Sin. Also I want to point out that some Ancient Greek writers also wrote about Original Sin as a mark or stain. I find it fascinating the Greek point of view of Original Sin that is explained in the links.