Another parishioner told my 8 year old daughter that she could be a priest someday - Page 2

LucyLight · #16 Jun 26, '12, 8:01 pm

An older man said pretty much the same thing to my daughter this weekend. I don't think my daughter heard him and I just smirked at him and walked passed him. I don't have a problem engaging people on important issues but sometimes you just get a sense that it wouldn't be worth it and its better to just leave it alone. There are lots of well meaning confused people in this world.

Andre1000 · #17 Jun 27, '12, 1:27 pm

From my experience, it is the best to say instantly that this statement is wrong because...

Like here you should have said something like: No that is impossible because it is an unchangeable teaching.
Usually the response is a yes your are right or a nice and polite discussion.

EasterJoy · #18 Jun 27, '12, 1:39 pm

In the moment (or if one talks to the person later), one can ask simply, "Why are you telling her that?"

After whatever response comes, you can say, "Well, Rome is not saying that, and Rome has made it clear that the matter isn't a matter of will, but a matter of ability. It cannot be done. In any case, I'll thank you not to teach my child to question Rome's authority. That is way out of bounds."

After that, keep the conversation on your insistence that no one has the permission to teach your child to question teachings of the Church. Period. Whatever else they may think, you are the primary educator of your child, and on that ground you may insist that this not be done again.

Whatever you do, avoid useless arguments that involve predicting the future, because almost no one ever changes their minds during those disputes. They feed strife, and nothing else. There is more to this, after all, than merely being right.

Delaine75 · #19 Jun 28, '12, 4:48 am

Way to go for instructed your daughter in the truth!

Perhaps a bit of an educational chat might be in order for the woman next time she says something like that. Maybe she really doesn't know that women are not going to be priests in the Catholic Church? I have a dear older family friend who was born and raised Catholic and I found out after taking my RCIA classes and being confirmed, I would talk to her about things I'd learned and found out that there was a LOT about the Catholic faith she honestly did not know!

catholicanne · #20 Jun 28, '12, 5:46 am

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Originally Posted by kattyc

(I apologize if this is in the wrong forum, I wasn't sure where this question should go exactly.)

Last week when we were volunteering at our church, I was having a conversation about children/birth etc. with a fellow parishioner whom I like very much. When my 8 year old daughter came and stood next to me, she heard the last bit of our conversation. The lady I was speaking to made a comment about her future and babies. I added in, "or she may be called to religious life" and then the lady added in "and maybe when you're older you will be able to be a priest!". My daughter looked at her all funny and replied "Uh, no." And I added in, "No, women aren't called to the priesthood." and left it at that. After I pulled my daughter aside and reminded her of the Church's teaching. Thankfully it was already something we had discussed and she readily agreed.

So my question does not involve my daughter, but this woman. Women not being eligible for the priesthood is Church doctrine and therefore we as Catholics should believe it and uphold the teaching. It is not my place to judge this woman but do I say something to her at least in regard to "please don't try to tell my children to not follow the Church's teaching?" Or do I let it go, be aware in future conversations (and say something if it happens again), and continue to teach my children the faith?

Don't get me started on this topic.

My husband and I attended a church this last Sunday that is apparently a "progressive" church. We were told that last year a group of women boycotted the Eucharist and held a protest outside of the church because they wanted women priests. My husband and I were horrified.

EasterJoy · #21 Jun 28, '12, 10:05 pm

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Originally Posted by catholicanne

Don't get me started on this topic.

My husband and I attended a church this last Sunday that is apparently a "progressive" church. We were told that last year a group of women boycotted the Eucharist and held a protest outside of the church because they wanted women priests. My husband and I were horrified.

Yes, they did that in 2010 and 2011....deciding that the best way to boycott the Church was to refuse to worship, they skipped their Sunday obligation, and went to a protest to get themselves into the newspaper, instead. At least there was no liturgical dancing that Sunday, but that is a small consolation in return for a show of strife like that. (Well, noneduring Mass. There was liturgical dancing at the protests, apparently.)

That's how secular people operate in the secular world. It is a disgrace for Christians to act in such a manner, and it betrays a vast ingratitude for the Eucharist, IMHO.

catholicanne · #22 Jun 29, '12, 3:56 am

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Originally Posted by EasterJoy

Yes, they did that in 2010 and 2011....deciding that the best way to boycott the Church was to refuse to worship, they skipped their Sunday obligation, and went to a protest to get themselves into the newspaper, instead. At least there was no liturgical dancing that Sunday, but that is a small consolation in return for a show of strife like that. (Well, noneduring Mass. There was liturgical dancing at the protests, apparently.)

That's how secular people operate in the secular world. It is a disgrace for Christians to act in such a manner, and it betrays a vast ingratitude for the Eucharist, IMHO.

Who wants to cross a picket line to go to church?

EasterJoy · #23 Jun 29, '12, 10:59 am

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Originally Posted by catholicanne

Who wants to cross a picket line to go to church?

What kind of Catholic sets up a picket line between the faithful and the Mass? I'd cross such a picket line without a thought. Honestly, I might go to Mass a 2nd time the same day just in order to calmly and yet publicly cross it. They need the prayers, and they need for these foolish tantrums of division to have the opposite of the effect intended. Maybe if they get less than nowhere with this kind of thing, they'll cut it out.

maltmom · #24 Jun 29, '12, 3:36 pm

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Originally Posted by EasterJoy

Yes, they did that in 2010 and 2011....deciding that the best way to boycott the Church was to refuse to worship, they skipped their Sunday obligation, and went to a protest to get themselves into the newspaper, instead. At least there was no liturgical dancing that Sunday, but that is a small consolation in return for a show of strife like that. (Well, noneduring Mass. There was liturgical dancing at the protests, apparently.)

That's how secular people operate in the secular world. It is a disgrace for Christians to act in such a manner, and it betrays a vast ingratitude for the Eucharist, IMHO.

All they did was make themselves look silly and their behavior wasn't very Christ-like.

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Originally Posted by catholicanne

Who wants to cross a picket line to go to church?

I would. Nothing would stop me from spending time with my Lord and Savior.

sainthumbert · #25 Jun 30, '12, 4:18 am

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Originally Posted by manualman

Fun glib response with steel underneath the velvet:

"Actually, we're raising her to believe in the catholic faith."

A most excellent response!!!

Allegra - There is no reason to believe that this woman was making a joke. I wasn't there, I've never met the lady, but I can smell the dissent and I can smell the lady's hatred for the Church. She was planting little weed seeds in the young child's mind.

HisIsTheCrown · #26 Jul 2, '12, 10:37 pm

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Originally Posted by kattyc

That was a rather glib response. I am not looking to debate the Church's teaching on who can/should be ordained. Please keep your comments to yourself if you cannot be helpful. I am looking for sincere insight on something I view as a problem.

I am surprised that I have got surprise at my answer.
The situation is so surreal that to a stupid situation you can only answer with a stupid answer.
I mean to tell to a 8 year old that she may become a priest someday is so outlandish that I had to tell anything but answer it seriously !
That is not a talk to tell a 8 year old. Period. The woman needs some kind of treatment.
If this girl was my daughter, I would answer exactly as I did: "Honey, never become a priest! It is enough all the troubles you will have as a woman to add the troubles of a priest!".. Sorry I cannot convey my tone of voice but I would have a lot of fun with my girl on that situation ...
My dealing with situations like these: either you cry or you laugh. Better laugh...