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May 24, '12, 4:19 pm
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Re: Our Lady of Good Success & question for traditionalists
Whenever you want to look up an apparition or title of the Virgin Mary, your first stop (in English) should be the University of Dayton Marian Library's "Mary Page." The Marian Library is the largest Marian research library in the entire world, and the staff are scrupulous about keeping everything canonically approved. (And the university administration is not exactly a hotbed of traditionalism, so rest assured that it's definitely no SSPX place!)
The papally-given title "Good Success" is a reference to a prayer from the Little Office of the Blessed Virgin Mary: "....O Lord... dispose our way, our acts, and wills, and those of all Your servants, in the good success of Your salvation."
The Marian Library accepted a DVD about Our Lady of Good Success and the apparitions into their collection in 2011, and recommended the Pro Multis site. That site's got a holy card pamphlet free for downloading on his page which includes some references, including the relevant bishop approvals.
In December 2009, the Marian Library newsletter noted the anniversary year and linked to the Our Lady of Good Success apostolate page.
Here's an older answer from 2008, when the title wasn't as well-known in English yet.
Looking for more info. I'll post when I find it!
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May 24, '12, 4:45 pm
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Re: Our Lady of Good Success & question for traditionalists
The cause of Mother Mariana Francisca de Jesus Torres y Berriochoa opened in 1986, and it is at the "Servant of God" stage. There's an official postulator at the Archdiocese of Quito.
The difficulty here is that the apparitions occurred well before the institution of apparition approval rules. So generally, if they didn't have the apparitions condemned or exposed as fraud, there was no reason for a bishop of the time to approve them. Approving the printing of a biography of a visionary nun, and approving the sculpting of Our Lady of Good Success in accordance with the vision, were both pretty clear examples of episcopal favor toward the apparition messages. But having Cardinal Torres' commission in our time declare the apparitions "worthy of belief" is about as much approval as you could possibly get.
Now, that said, the interpretation of private revelation is always difficult, especially since God spares us a lot of stuff if we pay attention to His warnings. People are always misquoting prophecies from other languages, or adding their own ideas. So you want to be very careful about getting the true words and interpreting them with prudence. It looks like a lot of people aren't being prudent at all, but that's pretty standard.
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Jun 13, '12, 11:17 am
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Re: Our Lady of Good Success & question for traditionalists
Who is the official postulator?
Also, where would one find the text of the "revelations"?
Thank you and God bless.
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Jun 13, '12, 1:35 pm
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Re: Our Lady of Good Success & question for traditionalists
http://www.miraclehunter.com/marian_...1600-1699.html
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c. 1600
Traigueras, Tortosa, Cataluña (Spain)
Title: Our Lady of Good Success (Statue)
Visionaries: Brothers Gabriel de Fontaned and Guillermo de Rigosa
Two Spanish friars, Brothers Gabriel de Fontaned and Guillermo de Rigosa traveled to Rome to meet the Pope for the approval of their order (The Order of Minims for the Service of the Sick or The Order of Saint Francis of Paola).[1] As they were passing through the town of Traigueras (under the jurisdiction of Tortosa in the Principate of Cataluña), a furious storm descended upon them. The brothers prayed for God's guidance and help. Immediately they saw a mysterious light coming from a cave in a cliff. Climbing up, they entered and found a beautiful statue of the Virgin Mary holding the Baby Jesus in her arms. They reported being surrounded by shimmering lights and fragrant scents. As no one claimed the statue, the two carried it with them, hoping that the Blessed Mother would help in getting approval for their order.
On arriving in Rome, the brothers were worried that they might not obtain papal consent. However, Pope Paul V on hearing the story of their journey, knelt before the statue and placed his pectoral cross around the its neck. As he embraced and kissed the statue, he said:
“Look Brothers! She is smiling! Why does she smile so? What good success you have had on this journey! There is no doubt that Our Lady has deigned to protect and support you in your work. Therefore it will not be me that will go against Her. May all of your efforts obtain good success!”
He then blessed it and christened her Our Lady of Good Success. The image was placed in the Royal Hospital of Madrid. Here, the image became famous "for the numerous favors granted by Heaven through her". In 1641, Philip III ordered the construction of the Sanctuary of the Puerta del Sol. This enshrines the image renowned among the churches of Madrid. Soon, as its popularity and devotion spread, the image is replicated and placed in different places in Spain: Orduña, La Puebla de Gordon, Tudela, Abla, and among others.
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Jun 13, '12, 5:27 pm
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Re: Our Lady of Good Success & question for traditionalists
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http://www.ourladyofgoodsuccess.com/...4-2005/aaa.htm
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In the history that revolves around the miraculous statue of Our Lady of Good Success in Quito, Ecuador, there exists not only the Mariana that is known affectionately as "Mother Mariana", the visionary but a St. Mariana, the Lily of Quito. Both bear the name of Mariana de Jesus. When discovering the distinction between these two "Mariana’s" there is a natural urge to feel a little tinge of disappointment since our heroine of the story of Our Lady of Good Success has not yet been canonized. Instead this "other Mariana" has been chosen to hold this title of honor and sanctity, becoming the first canonized saint of Ecuador. (For the sake of lessening the confusion between the 2 Mariana’s I will title Mother Mariana –"Mother Mariana" and St. Mariana I will title "The Lily of Quito")
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Butler's Lives of the Saints, vol II page 401 - St. Mariana of Quito. Born Mariana Paredes y Flores in 1618, also known as 'the lily of Quito'. She died in 1645, at the age of 26. Her feast day is May 26
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