Anglican Use - why so rarely used?

[Randy2]

I just read about a small congregation of Episcopalians in the Northeast that is considering enter the Catholic Church under the Anglican Use provision.

I'd heard of the Anglican Use before. Its been around about 2 decades I believe.

But I was surprised to find that, in all that time, only 6 or so congregations (all small) have come into the Church. Mostly in Texas.

With all the changes in the Episcopal church here, you would think there would be more movement but apparently the largest group of defectors from the Episcopal church is embracing Eastern Orthodoxy.

Sadly, I think they see the confusion in the US Church as pretty much where their church was 20 years ago - hence the reluctance to embrace Catholicism.

[rjs1]

The entry of Episcopalians into the Catholic Church has been discussed on another, now closed, thread. However your particular question, as to why so few have availed themselves of the Anglican Use provision, is very relevant.

As an ex Anglican, now Catholic, I can tell you that the apostasy and liturgical madness within the Catholic Church is very off putting to any considering the move to Rome. We require that extra push of faith to see beyond the local heresies to the reality of the One Church that Our Lord founded. If only the trendies realised (perhaps they do!) just how damaging their nonsense is to the attraction of the faith to outsiders.
Please pray that, in spite of the human weaknesses, all too noticable, the reality of Christ's one true Church will reach out and draw in those who are seeking the truth.
This, I hope, will be a priority of the new Pope.

[buzzcut]

I think that to create an Anglican Use parish, you basically need an entire Anglican parish that all want to convert all at the same time. That doesn't happen very often. I think there are only about 6 of them in the whole world.

[rjs1]

Dear Buzzcut,

You are partially correct. For Anglican Use you need a whole parish. However, it is estimated that there are up to 300,000 ex Anglicans in various groups separated from the Anglican and Episcopal Church who could be interested in becoming members of the Catholic Church. It is partially about these people I was speaking when I said that the nonsense going on in some Catholic parishes and even dioceses is scandalous to them. It often seems to them exactly like the problems that caused them to leave the Anglican or Episcopal church. Trying to get them to see beyond this to the reality of Christ's One Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church can be a challenege.

[RichSpidizzy]

Can someone explain what the Anglican Use provision is? I've never heard of it. I tried the old Catholic Encyclopedia (http://www.newadvent.com) but I guess the provision is too new. I tried Google too, but it didn't provide a clear explanation.

[FrRobSST]

Originally Posted by RichSpidizzy

Can someone explain what the Anglican Use provision is? I've never heard of it. I tried the old Catholic Encyclopedia (http://www.newadvent.com) but I guess the provision is too new. I tried Google too, but it didn't provide a clear explanation.

Try this site:

http://www.pastoralprovision.org/

Rob+

[FrRobSST]

Originally Posted by buzzcut

I think that to create an Anglican Use parish, you basically need an entire Anglican parish that all want to convert all at the same time. That doesn't happen very often. I think there are only about 6 of them in the whole world.

A lot of folks who leave the Episcopal Church in the United States and opt to join a non-anglican group opt for the Western Rite Vicariate of the Antiochean Orthodox Christian Archdiocese of America. They employ the Divine Liturgy of Saint Tikhon, which is essentialy the 1892 Book of Common Prayer of ECUSA with amendments to make it a bit more Gregorian in some places (moving the Pater Noster) and adding a more explicit Epiclesis than is found in even the 1892 BCP.

They have several parishes, about fifteen at last count, that use this rite exclusively.

There are also some other Orthodox groups, canonical and non-canonical, that employ variations of the western rite. The most fascinating one is St. Hilarion's Monastery in Austin, TX where they went and published the entire pre-Sarum liturgy of the English Church in classical english. I don't think they use it anymore, but it was fascinating to see that they had done it and how they celebrated in their small church there at the Monastery.

Rob+

[Franze]

Excuse for the off-topic but in the marriage of the prince of Wales and his blessing I listened the chorus and all these things and this is very beautiful, the next Pope must correct all the abuses in liturgy and masses because there are more plurality into the church and must be used.

[1ke]

I converted from the EC to the CC in 1992 and I love the Roman Rite. I do not go to the Anglican use church, even though there is one here in Houston.

[thejudeans]

Short and to the point, their is much more about the Anglican (Catholic) Communion when discussing the Episcopal Church that everyone needs to realize. But for now, that's a later topic.

Blessings to all our brothers and sisters in the RC, please keep us in your prayers.

[Little Mary]

Originally Posted by FrRobSST

Try this site:

http://www.pastoralprovision.org/

Rob+

OK I just visited this sight. As I understand it, Anglican Use is for those who want to convert from Episcople to Catholic but don't want to leave behind all of their traditions and ways of worship?