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Old Nov 15, '11, 8:38 am
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Default St John of the Cross' teachings

Hello after reading some of the writings of St John of the Cross I feel sort of discouraged. When he talks about detachment and the senses I get very confused. For example I like listening to music from time to time especially religious music, I was just wondering is it imperfect to listen to music or have other hobbies etc. if you are trying to be detached?? Any advice would be great!
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Old Nov 15, '11, 9:38 am
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It's not wrong to have hobbies, listen to music, etc. I think what you should do question whether or not those hobbies hinder your relationship with God. In the overall scheme of our journey, the minutia of our activities matters little. We must put everything in correct order. There are times when even good activities can subtly take the place of God. God's will must be first in our lives.

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Old Nov 15, '11, 10:07 am
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St John of the Cross did not write that these things are bad in themselves. He only wrote that one should not seek meaning in your relationship with God through them.

It is certainly okay to listen to music and have hobbies. Just remember God is neither in the music nor in the hobby.

I think this is why we "give up" things for Lent. When we do so, we set aside good things to focus on our relationship with God as better.
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Hello after reading some of the writings of St John of the Cross I feel sort of discouraged. When he talks about detachment and the senses I get very confused. For example I like listening to music from time to time especially religious music, I was just wondering is it imperfect to listen to music or have other hobbies etc. if you are trying to be detached?? Any advice would be great!
Hey,

You might want to check out this detachment thread.
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Old Nov 15, '11, 5:59 pm
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There is a good discussion of the writings of St. Teresa of Avila and St. John of the Cross, including his teaching on detachment, in Fire Within by Fr. Thomas Dubay. I also recommend a very readable (and relatively brief) biography of St. John of the Cross and his teaching entitled John of the Cross: Doctor of Light and Love by Kieran Kavanaugh.

St. John of the Cross, while one of the great teachers of the spiritual life, is not easy to comprehend without a little guidance, and his teaching is harder yet to apply in your daily life. A spiritual director can help you to determine what detachment means in the context of your life.
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