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View Poll Results: Which City is the most sacred to Catholicism?
Rome (More specifically The Vatican) 13 39.39%
Jerusalem 15 45.45%
Bethlehem 1 3.03%
Nazareth 2 6.06%
Al Maghtas 0 0%
Machaerus 0 0%
Mount Nebo 0 0%
Other (please specify in comments) 2 6.06%
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The Vatican isn't holy? Considering this, I would have to disagree. I do think it should be considered a holy site.

"Rome" cannot be anywhere on earth, the Pope could reside anywhere on earth, but he would still have to be the Bishop of Rome. We had a period of 68 years when the Popes resided in Avignon papacy. Avignon was the only the place where the Pope resided. Rome was still his See. He was never the bishop of Avignon. As the bishop of Rome, the popes of Avignon were still the successor of Peter, the Vicar of Christ.

So lets not say that Rome is not somehow special, it is. It cannot be anywhere on earth. Even if it was obliterated with a nuclear attack and uninhabitable, the true Pope would still have to be the Bishop of Rome, regardless of where he resided.

In addition to that, the great persecution by Nero of Christians started in Rome. It was here that St Peter and St Paul, along with countless other early Christians were martyred.
"Rome" in brackets can be anywhere on earth, wherever the Pope is. The Vatican is not a holy site. Christ never physically lived there. He makes Jerusalem holy because he lived and died there just as his presence makes plain bread holy by transforming it into the blood and body of Christ.
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Our Lord lived and died in Israel. The Vatican isn't holy, it's only the place the Pope resides and he can and has resided elsewhere. Technically "Rome" can be anywhere on earth whereas there is only one Jerusalem. Christ makes it holy just as he makes the Eucharist (wafers) holy.

Having been to Jerusalem, Bethlehem, Gethsemane etc I can't tell you the overwhelming feeling of emotional and spiritual peace it brings you. Yes, even when the country itself is being threatened. There is a peace at the Holy sites which I haven't experienced anywhere else including Vatican, Lourdes etc

If you make one pilgrimage in your life, make it Jerusalem.
Technically Palestine though, Bethlehem, Nazareth, etc
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Different historic cities for different Apostolic Churches. Constantinople for Greeks, Damascus and Antioch for Syriacs, Ecthmiadzin for Armenians, etc
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Technically Palestine though, Bethlehem, Nazareth, etc
For sure, would've picked multiple options but the poll only gave us one option. Wherever he lived, died and buried is holy.
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"Rome" in brackets can be anywhere on earth, wherever the Pope is. .
Again, this statement is wrong. The Avignon papacy proves it. Rome, in brackets or not, is where Rome is. The pope is the pope because he is the bishop of that specific city, regardless where he is.
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Jerusalem. Look the Vatican is the seat of the Church however as Christians, Jerusalem is the site where Jesus was crucified and resurrected. Funny, Judaism and Islam also revere it as theres but it really is the heart of Christianity. If it weren't for the events in Jerusalem, there would be no Catholic Church, or Christianity.
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Again, this statement is wrong. The Avignon papacy proves it. Rome, in brackets or not, is where Rome is. The pope is the pope because he is the bishop of that specific city, regardless where he is.
You obviously don't understand what Rome in brackets means. Regardless, the Vatican is not a holy place because Christ did not live live there ever. Yes the Vatican is an important place but it doesn't compare with Jerusalem.
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Jerusalem. Look the Vatican is the seat of the Church however as Christians, Jerusalem is the site where Jesus was crucified and resurrected. Funny, Judaism and Islam also revere it as theres but it really is the heart of Christianity. If it weren't for the events in Jerusalem, there would be no Catholic Church, or Christianity.
Exactly. There would also be no Vatican/Rome without Jerusalem or Bethlehem.
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