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Mar 21, '13, 4:09 pm
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Re: Eucharistic Miracle Buenos Aires, Argentina
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Originally Posted by PaxEtBonumFides
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Neither of those two blogs state that this alleged miracle is officially recognized by the Catholic Church.
In fact, both blogs contradict each other:
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At seven o’clock in the evening on August 18, 1996, Fr. Alejandro Pezet was saying Holy Mass at a Catholic church in the commercial center of Buenos Aires. As he was finishing distributing Holy Communion, a woman came up to tell him that she had found a discarded host on a candleholder at the back of the church. On going to the spot indicated, Fr. Alejandro saw the defiled Host. Since he was unable to consume it, he placed it in a container of water and put it away in the tabernacle of the chapel of the Blessed Sacrament.
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On August 15, 1996 an elderly Eucharistic minister was distributing communion during Mass in a church named Santa Maria, in Buenos Aires, Argentina. He accidentally dropped a Host. Not sure of what to do, he asked the priest for assistance.
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Not even the beginning of the story is agreed on.
I've looked very closely into this alleged miracle, and have posted on other threads regarding it.
Zugibe never wrote a single word about it, not a single word, and he's published numerous books on the crucifixion, and on his website it doesn't even get a mention, along with the fact that Gomez has now stopped claiming Zugibe was involved despite claiming Zugibe saw cells moving in the tissue and this guy is the cardiologist that was sent the sample.
Other reports claim it was a different cardiologist.
You'd think Gomez would know who he was dealing with since he claims to have been there when Zugibe said to him how is it that the cells are alive and moving
This throws the manual out on tissue death and yet a published cardiologist doesn't think to write a single word about it
The lack of detail and the contradictions leave this alleged miracle not credible to me.
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Mar 21, '13, 8:52 pm
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Re: Eucharistic Miracle Buenos Aires, Argentina
So i have not watched the film, but from the brief flipping through this thread i understand that the Eucharist turned from bread, to actual flesh, heart tissue,
my question is for anyone who knows,
what happened to the species after wards ?
Was it discarded, or put into some protective display, sent off to the vatican , or returned to the parish of origin ?
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Apr 7, '13, 6:40 am
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Join Date: July 10, 2011
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Re: Eucharistic Miracle Buenos Aires, Argentina
I believe in miracles, but more information is needed here. I am skeptical of scientists who seem to specialize in researching miracles, then sell books and lecture about it. This guy reminded me of a used car salesman in the video. They need to publish the details of the experiments and make them available to the public. Is that too much to ask? We are simply taking their word for it. They also need to have more objective scientists examine the sample and have the study peer reviewed. Zugibe and Castanon are known religious scientists who are biased and may have ulterior motives. Zugibe examined and approved of Catalina Rivas who is a fake stigmatist - so I am very cautious about his conclusions on the supposed eucharistic miracle. I don't believe for a minute that Zugibe was clueless about the nature of the sample he was examining, since he is known for miracle research and received it from a scientist who is known for miracle research. Castanon should have sent a sample to a more objective scientist for the sake of credibility. If anyone has the actual details of the study, let me know. Thanks.
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Apr 15, '13, 9:59 am
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Re: Eucharistic Miracle Buenos Aires, Argentina
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I am skeptical of scientists who seem to specialize in researching miracles, then sell books and lecture about it
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I agree, and if not for the fact that I used to go to that church and knew about the miracle I didn't like this man making a "show" with Jesus.
I think I can explain a little the confusion; now after so many years, it seems to have a meaning. In the first place, there are, at least, two Hosts; the Bishop at the moment decided to keep the thing secret; the next Bishop was Bergoglio (Pope Francis); he was the one who started to investigate the "happening".
I think the miracle was meant to Bergoglio, for his future mission. (I mean that at the moment, everybody was puzzled; nobody seemed to understand what Jesus was trying to say) till everything went silent.
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